Grammar Girl #5.45: “Comma Splice”
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In episode 45 Grammar Girl verbosely talks about Scott Sigler, a person with bad grammar, and with incorparating him in this episode she teaches us how to correct comma mistakes. Being problamatic, commas join two main clauses with a word such as "and," "but," or "or." Remember that you need a comma before the conjunction. To identify a wrong comma usage just check if you can separate the sentence into 2 main clauses. If identified it can be easily fixed by adding a comma then a conjunction.
Examples:
1. On separate days you disappear in violent ways, and on distinct nights you fight to stay awake.
2. Life isn't easy for the people that dream, but it's easy for the fools that waste it.
-Rosas, Roger
On today’s Grammar Girl the topic is about “Comma Splice”. Grammar Girl used examples from his a book to show how not to use a comma. There are so many different possibilities, or way people can use them correctly. But also one of the ways to use a comma is to separate two clauses that are connected by a coordinating conjunction. It means that when you join two things together that could be sentences on their own with a word such as the word “and, but, or, and others.” you need a comma before the conjunction. To join them with a comma you will need the word “and” or some other word coordinating the conjunction that is a comma splice or a comma fault. It’s because the comma is used to splice together two complete sentences when that isn’t the function of a comma. If the two types of sentences are related to each other, as they are you can use a semicolon to connect them without a coordinating conjunction. Another thing is that Grammar Girl hasn’t thought about it this way that you could consider a semicolon a sentence splicer. Finally some of the times you can fix a comma splice by adding a coordinating conjunction.
Ex. Henry ran into the woods, and Jose was right behind him trying to keep up.
Henry ran into the woods is a complete sentence, and Jose was right behind him trying to keep up is also a complete sentence.
Ex. They understood it, and he got it right.
The semicolon works because the two clauses are related to each other.
Ex. Roxana obviously named her little dog Daisy; she was random person for think of those names.
The semicolon makes sense because the second clause expands on the reasoning of the first clause.
Ex. “The wrong way” They were doing that, he had them over there.
“The right way” They were doing that. He had them over there.
-Alex Luviano
I misspelled the word incorporating! No!
By the way my examples aren't suppose to make sense.
Response to Alex Luviano:
You should reread your response before posting to examine for possible errors. For instance, your 3rd example has an error; there are other errors. I'll let you correct them. I recommend writing with quality instead of quantity.
In episode 45 grammar girl talks about a book written by Scott Sigler.
She is using the book as an example of how not to use commas. She explains that commas are used to separate two main clauses that are connected by a coordinating conjunction.
She then goes on to explain what a comma splice is. Which is when you use a comma without the word and,but, or or. And there are more out there, without a doubt. There are many mistakes in Sigler's book like this. She then mentions semicolons,which we have learned about before in previous grammar girls, and how to use them to fix comma splices.
Examples:
1.You could easily find a guitar at a pawn shop, but good luck finding a drum set.
2.I found that it is easier to be an atheist, than to believe in a certain religion.
@Roger:
You examples are alright, but in your first example it does not make sense to me. i feel like your missing some sort of symbol. im not 100% sure though.
i forgot to say
Zepshizzle= Cris Garcia P.2
Do you ever get the feeling that you're using too many commas or that you're misusing? You're probably right because you have the instict to spot comma splices. Comma slices are when you just put a comma in between two main clauses that should have a coordinating conjunction such as "and" or "but". To fix these common mistakes you can either use semi-colons, periods, or like what was said before, use coordinating conjuntions. Just remember that coordinating conjuntions won't always work, but they are good ways to fix comma splices.
Ex.1 The sentence, "Bob went to the store to buy chili peppers, his wife went to the fast food place to get dinner" would be incorrect because there is a comma splice. Both parts of the sentence are main clauses, meaning they can stand by themselves and stilla make sense. There are many ways to correct this sentence. One way would be to add a coordinating conjuntion, in this case I would use "and". "Bob went to the store to buy chili peppers, and his wife went to the fast food place to get dinner."
Ex.2 The sentence, "The roads in Zacatecas are very smooth, the roads in Queretaro are very rough" would be incorrect. The correction would be "The roads in Zacatecas are very smooth, however the roads in Queretaro are very rough."
Response: My reponse goes to Cris Garcia. Your examples are good and in your summary you mention the major points of what Grammar Girl talked about in this episode. It seems that you fully understand the concept of comma splices, so keep up the good work!
zacadisco93 is Fernando Serrano from per.2
In this episode of Grammar Girl we learn that comma splices are bad!! The only time that you use a comma is when the sentence or statement shares the same coordinating conjunction. This is a conjunction like and, but, or or, A comma splice is when you separate two complete sentences with a comma. These errors are very easy to spot if you find one just swap it with the right use of a comma, semicolon, or period.
Examples:
1. In the morning you feel the tension, but are you the only one
2. I dislike this person, so I decided to avoid them.
Response to Rosas
It was a great use of commas and the sentences were original.
People actually have decent examples so far. Please do NOT comment on whether you liked the post or not. Do NOT comment that the post helped you understand the blog.
Instead correct someone, reflect on what that person wrote, question that person, or write something interesting. Feel free to put your own questions about what you don't understand, then wait for someone to answer you.
No matter how long you make your response to a classmate, if you only put that it helped you, I will not give you credit for that part.
Good luck.
On this week's Grammar Girl, episode 45, she talks about comma splices. A comma splice is basically when you use a comma improperly. Basic comma mistakes. There are so many ways to use comma's, but the main one is to separate two main clauses that are connected by a coordinating conjunction. An example of a comma mistake is...
"Andy was late for school, his mother was taking her time to get ready for work."
^^^^
That above is an example of a comma splice because those are two separate sentences. So you would just add a period or a semi colon to correct it.
Sometimes you can also fix a comma splice by adding a coordinating conjunction. For example...
"Nay Nay passed her english test and her math test with flying colors."
My last example is just adding a period instead of a comma. For example...
"Helen says she's cool. She has the stunna shades to show it."
I hope you understand guys & girls :]
-Sandra Fernandezzzzzz
To: zepshizzle
Your explanation of comma splices are very good, but the only thing that i think would of made the reader's understand better is if you were to give a sentence example showing what a comma splice is. Other than that, it was great. :)
peace out!
-sandra
This week, Grammar Girl talks about comma- splices. Comma splices or comma faults, occur when a comma has been forgotten in complex- compound sentences.
To use commas in complex- compound sentences, you have to combine two main clauses using coordinating conjunctions after the commas. Coordinating conjunctions include "and," "but," and "or."
On some occasions, comma splices can be fixed using a period or a semicolon. All you have to do is look at the sentences and see if a period, a semicolon, or a comma before the coordinating conjunctions are necessary.
Examples:
1) He wanted to go out with his friends, but it was too late.
2) She liked to travel, and was pleased to hear that her friend was coming along with her.
3) She finished her run earlier than usual; it was a new record.
4) She finished her run earlier than usual. It was a new record.
SarahALG ;)
Response to Zepshizzle...
You explanation of this episode was well- thought out; however, you kind of lost me at what comma splices are. I had to reread that sentence a few times to have the concept click in my head. I reccomend writing a little more clearly next time, but you did a good job. Your examples are straight -forward and understandable.
GREAT JOB!!!!
SARAHALG :)
In this weeks grammar girl she talks about how to use commas in the correct way and teaches us how to avoid comma splices.A comma splice is when two complete sentences are spliced by a comma.One of the most common ways to use a comma is to seperate two main clauses by using coordinating conjunction.Some coordinating conjunction are "and","but", and "or".It is easy to correct a comma splice once you know what the problem is all you need to do is replace the problematic comma with a period or a semicolon.
Examples of correct ways to use commas:
1.Softball is a competitive game, and is also very fun.
2.Samira was given the choice to clean the house, or cook for the family.
3.Colleen got her new phone yesterday, but it was stolen at school by an unknown person.
Spicy sandra 77777777! gave good examples of the incorrect ways to use a comma and gave us examples of how to correct comma splices. Her comment helped me better understand the different uses of commas.
This week, Grammar Girl talks about the usage of commas. The most common way to use a comma is by having two main clauses and a conjunction together as one whole sentence. The different ways a comma is used can trick people into making errors. Gladly, comma errors can easily be fixed. If two sentences are related to one another then instead of using a comma one can use a semicolon to separate the two main clauses. Another easier way to fix a comma is by replacing it with a period. In some cases, one can use coordinating conjunctions to fix a comma splice. If a comma is used in a sentence, make sure it’s not alone without a coordinating conjunction!
Example 1: I arrived very late to school on Wednesday, but my teacher didn’t care.
Example 2: Unfortunately, I was not the winner, but I still felt very happy with the results.
To Alex L.,
I think your examples are good, but I saw a little mistake on one sentence. I think you should revise what you write. Your summary was also to wordy, but I can see that you get it. Great Job though (:
- Mary G. P2
Stephanie Calderon
per.2
During this episode, Grammar Girl discusses the proper ways to use commas. Comma splices are when a comma is placed somewhere where it is not needed. Sometimes comma splices can be fixed my adding a coordinating conjunctions, but commas should not be plaed in plaes where a period or semi-colon should be.
ex: I am an athlete, but running is difficult because I have asthma.
This is an example of the correct way to use a comma because it is placed before a coordinating conjunction.
ex. She loves that food, cooking it is what keeps her happy.
this is an example of a comma splice because it splices together two complete sentenes.
Response to Helen Toloza:
Helen, you gave us examples of the corrext way to use commas which was useful, but you lacked an explanation as to why those were orrect ways to use commas. Also you should have gave an example of a comma splice just so that we could thoroughly understand that you grasp the concept. However, i did enjoy reading your summary.
In this episode of Grammar Girl, she states that there are many ways commas can be used, but one really used would be to separate two main clauses when connected by a coordinating conjunction. Grammar Girl uses phrases from Scott Sigler's book to correct misused comma sentences. Also when you join two independent sentences you can use words like and, but, and or. She said you can also sometimes fix comma splices by using a coordinating conjunction.
Examples:
1.Dinosaurs are very friendly pets, but can also be very dangerous when not feed.
2.When the young man made the stunt he almost fell off the cliff; a very dangerous moment.
Response to Sandra-
Sandra you need to use the commas properly because you need to combine two independent sentences not two dependent sentences and you also need to be more careful with your last example; its confusing.
Jesse Machorro.
Hey everybody. Just a preface. The reason why I don’t just summarize what Grammar Girl says is because it’s boring and redundant especially if you already know the grammar concepts. If you would like to respond to my posts, please see that I am trying to put a more analytical spin on my Grammar Girl entries.
Ok. Now that that’s taken care of. I can understand what Grammar Girl says about comma splicing, but I can’t understand her example about Sara and the “Happy Days” reruns.
What’s this?!
Where the heck did the cow come from. That’s random.
Grammar Girl took no effort in prefacing that character.
Wow. Grammar Girl is critical about this Scott character. She practically tore his writing to shreds, grammatically speaking.
Well apart from Grammar Girl’s surprising randomness and over criticalness, here are some examples.
I love chocolate ice cream, it tastes delicious.
This idea is a COMMA SPLICE because the comma should be replace with a semicolon.
The result is I love chocolate ice cream; it tastes delicious.
Because Grammar Girl is too critical, she rips Scott a new one in correcting his grammar mistakes.
This sentence is correct and doesn’t have a COMMA SPLICE. It uses a comma and a connecting “because” to make the idea more fluid.
Thanks for reading.
Please respond.
Rama P.2
Hey Sandra.
I love your example with Nay Nay.
“Nay Nay passed her english test and her math test with flying colors."
The thing is though, that sentence doesn’t use the word “and” in order to fix a comma splice. It actually connects her English and math tests together to show that she passed both of them.
You could’ve written
“Nay Nay passed her English test, and she passed her math test”
In this case the “and” is correcting the comma splice.
In Grammar Girl episode 45, Grammar Girl explains one of the most common ways to use a comma. She tells how a comma can be used to seperate two main clauses(complete thoughts). If you use a coordinating conjunction (words such as "and," "but," or "or") after a comma you can join two seperate sentences that relate to one another. If the sentences are closely related, one can also use a semicolon to attach them without the need of a coordinating conjuction. Common misuses of the comma include the "comma splice". This is when two completely different sentences are put together with a comma (without a conjunction).
Ex. 1: Correct way to use a comma
-He fell off of the building. He broke his leg.
This sentence can be brought together with a comma and a coordinating conjuction.
-He fell off of the building, and broke his leg.
Ex. 2: Semicolon
Two sentences can be connected if they make sense together.
-He mumbled his words; she did not understand him.
Ex. 3: Incorrect use (Comma Splice)
If the sentences are brought together with a comma and without a coordinating conjunction it's called a comma splice.
-He ran quickly, it looked ridiculous.(wrong)
Reasonable Rama,
I understand why you think that Grammar Girl shouldn't have said that a cow was being named; we didn't need to know it. But maybe you should have included proper comma use in your post. As well as a thorough explanation of how to use coordinating conjunctions.
-Paul
on episode 45 of grammar girl she talks about Scott Sigler.Grammar Girl talks about how bad his Grammar is so she uses him as an example to explain the correct form of comma mistakes.commas can be misplaced by many people but where you mostly use them is to separate two main clauses when connected with a coordinating conjunction.
examples
you can find loose change in the couch,but good luck trying to find a fifty dollar bills.
Dominique was playing the game of skate with Fernando,and he won the game.
Fernando,Betancourt
in this weeks episode of grammar girl she talks about comma's and how youo should use them. She explains that commas are tricky because there are so many different ways you can use them, which is true considering that i am one of the people who does this. Grammar girl says the most common way to use commas is to separate two main clauses that are connected by a coordinating conjunction.
Ex. john ran to market, and tim ran to liquor store.
She also explains that you can use a peiod or even a semicolon to fix these problems.
Ex. The pencil broke.He knew he was done.
- Joseph Compton
per 5
Today's episode of Grammar Girl is on Comma Splice. It talks about how to use a comma in the correct place. It shows you when and were to put a comma in a sentence. A comma is used when you are separating to clauses that are attached a a conjunction. Commas are used to slit apart the cause and effect on a statement you are making. Many words like “and or but” are used so that you can add a comma in your sentence.
Example 1: The boy jumped into the pool, the lifeguard went after him, but he could not make it so the boy passed away.
Example 2: The girl made it to school on time, but the teacher still gave her detention cause she did not do her homework.
I think that zepshizzle did a good job. There examples were very good and it helped me understand this episode of Grammar Girl.
Fernando Cazares Period 1
In this episode Grammar Girl is talking about commas and how people use them excessively sometimes. She also gives us some examples on how to use commas and semi colons. Usually when you use a conjunction,and, but, or, etc., you put a comma before it. That helps you put two sentences together without having to use a period.
Examples:
1. People always fight to solve problems, but fighting only makes it worse.
2. I try my best to do well in school, and i set goals for myself to make sure it happens.
Response to Cris Garcia :
Your first example is very good, but I'm not sure if in your second example the comma belongs there. you should double check it.
Nelly Melamed
Per.5
Grammar Girl discussed how to properly use a comma. She explained that a comma comes into play when you're separating two clauses that are joined by a coordinating conjunction. In addition she explained that a comma splice is when the writer uses a comma to fuse two complete sentences together. You may fix the problem by adding a semicolon or a conjunction.
Ex:
1. Sara was proud she ran five laps, but now she feels faint.
2. I was late to school again, because the bus never comes on time.
To: Spicy Sandra
The summary you posted was great. It really helped me to understand this week's topic of Comma Splices. Also your examples were top-notch, so keep up the good work. :)
-Carlos Hisquierdo P.2
Grammar Girl's forty fifth episode was on these little do-hickeys called Comma Splices. As an example of bad comma usage she used Scott Sigler's "Ancestor." Two statements that can equal two main clauses with a comma in between do not count as the proper way to use a comma. To get the proper use of the comma the two clauses must have a conjunction after the comma.
Ex 1. Currently this statement doesn't make sense, but because I added the comma it formed the proper way to use a comma.
Ex 2. I really hope that was the proper way to use a comma because I'm going to feel stupid if it wasn't, but I guess that's what this blog is for.
This week my reply goes out to Cris. I'm fond of your examples however I don't think that your second example shows the proper way to use the comma. I'm obviously no expert, but I feel that it should be re worded.
OHH!!! I just realized my second example wasn't clear. No offense was intended. I meant it as this blog is supposed to help understand specific concepts better NOT make anyone feel stupid. Sorry!!
It was also posted by Daniel Rodriguez Per. 2
In episode 45 grammer girl talks about Scott Sigler first science fiction novel. She found errors in his sentences called a "comma splice" or a "comma fault." Commas are use to seperate two main clause and you need a comma before a conjunction.
Examples:
1) Danny walked to school, he stopped at the store. (incorrect)
Danny walked to school, and he stopped at the store. (correct)
You can fix a comma splice with a period, semicolon, or a coordinating conjunction.
2) Her name is Belle. She is really smart.
3) Her name is Belle; she is really smart.
4) Her name is Belle,and she is really smart.
hey fernos478,
Your summary and examples are great, but you didn't mention semicolons. great job though!
Sandra Viramontes
period 5
:)
This weeks Grammar Girl focuses on the correct way to use commas. She explains that "commas are tricky" because there are many ways to use them. A common manner is to separate two main clauses that are connected by a conjunction. The point is you need a comma before any conjunction that connects two sentences together.
Examples:
The police officers tried to arrest the crook, but the crook got away.
During the investigation there was an earthquake, unfortunately there was no clues lost.
Response:
What about commas used to list items?
This week on Grammar Girl she talks about comma splices. Commas can be very tricky because there is many different ways you can use them. One of the common ways to use a comma is to separate two main clauses that should be connected by a coordinating conjunction. This basically means that when you are combining two complete sentencesand making it one you simply can add conjunctions such as and,but, or. But this should have a comma before the conjunction.
Ex.
We were going to the movies, but it started to rain really hard.
This are two complete sentences combined by a conjunction and a comma.
To avoid comma splices you must add a comma and have a conjunction.
Ex. Tomorrow we are going to the store, we are planning a surprise party.
This would be wrong because there is no conjunction.
As grammar girl says a comma is not used to splice together two complete sentences ,thats where a period is used.
A semicolon can be used to connect two sentences without a coordinating conjunction. You can fix a comma splice by simply adding a coordinating conjunction, or a semicolon.
Ex.
We planned a party; it was very fun.
This is using a semicolon because it supports the first clause. Which makes it coorect used of semicolon
Karina P
Grammar Girls podcast entitled, Comma Splice discussed the proper usage of commas. Grammar Girl explained that the proper moments to use a comma is before a coordinating conjunction which separates two main clauses. To repair a sentence with wrong comma usage a period can be inserted between the two main clauses or a semicolon, as well as a coordinating conjunction.
Ex:
She was tired but, she had work to do.
He was depressed;he had failed two classes.
Michelle Vasquez period:2
This topic was about commas splices. She says that commas are tricky becuase there are a variety of ways to use them. She also says its easy to fix a comma splice with a period or semicolon instead of an "and", "but", or "or"(See now Im using it).
Ex. I could have gotten Prototype, but Uncharted was tempting becuase of its low price.
Ex. I want to watch Two and a Half Men, but I have so much work to do today
Geoffrey,
Commas can also be used to separate things in a list. I was also wondering why she didn't mention that. But I think it was because the topic was a uniting, splicing, main clauses. But you do seem to understand that already!
-Michelle V. Period:2
My comment goes to Alex L.
You have very good examples that makes us understand the concept. Although i believe you have an error on one of your examples. Besides this you showed that you understood the comma splice concept.
_--Karina P
Grammar Girl was mean this week. Choosing Scott's writing to tear up in order to show us how to correct comma mistakes. She told us that we can fix a comma mistake with either a period, semicolon, or by adding a coordinating conjunction.
How to fix a comma mistake with a period:
[wrong] House looked her in the eyes, Cuddy just walked away.
[correct] House looked her in the eyes. Cuddy just walked away.
The period separated two complete sentences.
How to fix a comma with a semicolon:
[wrong] House pops pills, they take away his pain.
[correct] House pops pills;they take away his pain.
How to fix a comma with a coordinating conjunction:
[wrong] House pops pills, and they take away his pain.
[correct] House pops pills and they take away his pain.
-Rocio Lopez
This weeks Grammar Girl was about the comma splice. Grammar Girl uses examples to show us when and when not to use a comma. A comma is used when you separate two main clauses that are connected by a coordinating conjunction. When you do this you must use a word such as “and,” “but,” or “or,” and need a comma before the conjunction. She also explains when to use a semicolon. Semicolons are used when the two clauses are related.
Examples:
1.)I went to play basketball and, she went to the mall.
2.)I wanted to go to the basketball game;my dad bought tickets.
Response:
Roger,
your examples are interesting. I don't get the first one but the second is very true.
-Anthony Williams
This weeks Grammar Gilr is about "Comma Splices". A comma splice is when you put two main clauses together without any joining them with words such as "and," "but" or "or". She points out a man named Scott Sigler who she finds uses many "comma splices" within his writing. You can fix comma splices by adding a conjunction and also adding a comma before the conjunction, by simply putting a period in the middle of the two main clauses making them two main sentences, or by putting a semicolon within the sencetence in order to have some type of connection between both sentences.
Examples of Comma Splices:
1. -(Wrong Way)- "Sam almost won the race, he came in second place."
-(Correct Way)- "Sam almost won the race, but he came in second place."
2. -(Wrong Way)- "Susie eats apples all the time, she likes to eat them with caramel."
-(Correct Way)- "Susie eats apples all the time, and she likes ti wat them with caramel."
Roger Rosas,
I liked your summary and all that great stuff, but on your examples i would've liked to see some examples of some comma splices. Other than that they were cool.
Michelle,
Your first example had me a little confused. It would have been nice if you explained that one a little bit.
I think I did write it correctly. I used a conjunction before the comma.
This week's grammar girl was about "comma slicing". You are able to connect 2 clauses together but not by only adding a comma(,). If you just force a comma anywhere just to connect sentences for the fun it it is called "comma plice" or "comma fault". This is an incorrect way to use commas but luckily for many us it's fixable. You can fix comma slicing by simply adding a coordinating conjunction after the comma."Without the conjunction it's comma slicing".
Ex. I miss Mely and I wish she didn't have to go,but it's for her own good.
You can also use a semicolon to fix it. The catch is that the two sentences have to be related to one another.
Ex. The weather was windy; I wore a sweater.
and the 3rd way to fix comma slicing is simply by separating the sentence into 2 individual sentences by adding a period.
Ex.I haven't seen my cousin in a long time. She lives far away from here.
My comment this week for Fernando C. I think that your summary was short but good. I think that could have included the other ways to fix comma splicing. Even though you only focused on one you still show that you inderstand. I hope that you fully comprehen this episode so that you can help others that don't. Good Jod wrapping it up for everyone esle though.
In the episode of Grammer Girl was about comma slices.She explained when you have two main clauses you can put them together.You can put the together by putting and,but,and or before the conjunction.But,you must always need a comma after the conjunction
ex.Joseph is going to the beach and,he's also heading over to his friend's house.
ex.Bob is going to the liquir store but,he left his money in his wallet that he left in his pants.
On another episode of Grammar Girl she talks to us about the proper usage of commas. Many misuse the sentences and do not add commas to make their sentences much more accurate. A sentence that has a conjuction always has to be followed by a comma. Even professional writers makes some similar mistakes.
Ex. I finished my book report last night, but when I got to school it wasn't in my backpack.
Ex. She had to clean her room before she went out to the party, but she left to the party without cleaning her room.
Roberto Cabezas Per. 2
Gilly: Great job. Love the way you explained in depth your response.
This week on Grammar Girl, she talks about the uses of commas. She uses Scott Siggler's "Earthcore" to illustate some commonly misuses of commas.
Grammar Girl explain how commas are used to separate two main clauses. If you use a commas, you need one of the following coordinatiing conjunction along with the comma in order for it to be used correctly: the words "and," "but," and "or." If you don't use one of these coordinating conjuction, and instead just have two independent sentences with a comma sepating them, it is called a comma splice. Also you can choose between commas, semicolons, or periods to best fit your sentence.
EXAMPLE 1
(wrong) "I went to the market, i got some eggs."
here you have two independent sentences separated by a comma, making this sentence incorect and with a comma splice.
(correct) "I went to the market, and i got some eggs."
EXAMPLE 2
"I went to my car to get my shoes, but they weren't there."
Here you have the coordinating conjunction along with a comma to correctly join these two related sentences together.
Spark:
Your summary was good, straight to the point, and had all the key elements to what the grammar girl was about... but i think that your examples were just a bit too simple. There was no explanation or correct and incorrect to any of them... i think you could have a little bit more to show not only your understanding but that when your classmates read your examples they can get a better understanding of what grammar girl was talking about.
But overall it was good!
-Michelle Couto
In Episode 45, Grammar Girl specifically talks about one guy named Steve Sigler who happened to have bad grammar. By pointing out his mistakes, she introduced the main problems people have with placement of commas. The displacement of a comma is called a comma splice. Sometimes we need to add the word "and", "but" or "or" to join two clauses. It is possible to correct this problem by putting periods where you would usually put commas if they are complete sentences.
Examples:
1. I wanted to go back there, but I was scared of them.
2. People have dreams of becomming certain things, and someday they will become one of those things.
-Giovanna Murray Per.2
Dear Roger,
I love your examples, very detailed and vivid seems like you really understand this stuff keep it up!
The topic of Grammar Girl is Comma Splices. She reviews Scott Sigler's book and points out his errors in comma placement. She tells us that there are many ways to use commas but the most common is to separate two main clauses that are connected by a coordinating conjunction. You can also use periods for sentences or semicolons as "sentence splicers". But a coordinating conjunction works just fine.
Example: Coach sprinted toward the safehouse, and Rochelle kept the door open.
Example: He wondered when he would be receiving his reward, but it turns out he never did.
Francisco B.
A comma splice is when two main clauses are joined by a comma. It's also called a comma fault. To fix this error, one could separate the two main clauses, add a semicolon when the clauses are related, or add a coordinating conjunction.
Ex. He was watching a movie, eating popcorn and candy.
This could be fixed by a semicolon since the two clauses are related.
He was watching a movie; eating popcorn and candy.
Ex. I saw a kitty, a dog chased it.
This could also be fixed be a semicolon but I'll use a coordinating conjunction.
I saw a kitty and a dog chased it.
Note- Sometimes comma splices are ok in rare occasions when the sentences are short and almost the same.
Ex. I came, I saw, I conquered.
-Sara L. per.2
Response to Alejandro:
Hey whats up alex. Your examples are good but your summary seems a little bit too lengthy and ya i agree with Roger write with quality not with quantity but then again my summary isn't great either hahaha. Nevertheless good job.
Michelle-
On your comment about Geoffrey's summary, Grammar Girl did some what mention lists and commas. I assume that near the end of the transcript, she was talking about it.
-Sara L
This week Grammar girl talks about comma splices and uses Scott Siglers book to show us how not to use them. Commas can be used to separate two main clauses that are connected by a coordinating conjunction such as "and," "but," or "or," but you need a comma before it. If a comma is placed anywhere its called a "comma splice" but this can be corrected by adding a conjunction after the comma.
Ex:{incorrect}- Angie ran into her house, her mom ran after her with the belt.
{correct}- Angie ran into her house, but her mom ran after her with the belt.
You can also fix comma splices with periods.
Ex: I haven't talked to my mom. She left when I was seven.
or by semicolon
Ex: It was cloudy today; I wore a jacket.
slonek: I liked ur summary and that you said that you use commas the wrong way so do I. I ready ur first example and I think theres grammar error other than that good job.
Alejandra N
per.5
Today's topic # 45 grammar girl explains the correct way how to use a comma. Many people use commas different ways, normally commas connected by a coordinating conjunction. In other words sentences on their on with a word "and", "but" or "or","you" need a comma before the conjunction.
I would like to comment on Jesse. I the first example the last word was miss spelled; wrote feed when he really to write fed.
Bad Ex:
Even though Brian has not payed his bill, he still has time to pay it.
Correct Ex:
Lisa baked a cake for her father on his birthday, but unfortunately some one ate it before he arrived home.
In this weeks podcast, GrammarGirl talked about the placement of commas. She explained that to join together two complete sentences, you need a comma followed by a conjunction. You cannot have a just the comma stand alone. She also explained that you can sometimes just add a semicolon to join the sentences.
Ex. "She ate like a pig, because she hadn't eaten in weeks." This is a correct comma use because it's joining two complete sentences with a comma and a conjunction.
Ex. "He was alarmed, the phone rang loudly." This is not the correct usage of the comma because there is no conjunction to help it stand.
Sara L.,
You have a really nice summary of Grammar Girl's podcast. However, I think your examples would be a little clearer if you labeled whether the sentence was correct or incorrect.
Grammar Girl was about a person named scott sigler which has bad grammar. She showed us how to correct comma mistakes. Commas join two main clauses with the word "and," "but," "so," and "or." you always need a comma before a conjuction. To find out if you didnt make a mistake with commas check to see if you have two separate sentences into two main clauses.
Ex. I really want to go to college, but i cant if I'm not a citizen.
Ex. I have to do all my work, so that way I can pass this class.
In episode 45, Grammar Girl discusses comma splices, using her friend Scott Sigler's book as examples of comma splices. The main function of a comma is to join two main clauses with words like "and", "or", or "but", but using a comma incorrectly, these words aren't seen.
For example, "They were getting hit,they weren't liking it".
The correct way of forming this sentence is: "They were getting hit, and they weren't liking it".
II: They went to the store, and got pears and apples.
Zacadisco,would "however" serve as a conjunction? I'm just wondering, not saying your example isn't any good. If it is,excellent example.
--Vianney Bernabe p.2
In episode 45, Comma Splice, Grammar Girl teaches us of the proper usage of commas. We are introduced to the book Earthcore by Scott Sigler, which is filled with comma splices. From this book, we learn how to fix comma splices. It is explained that a common way to use commas is to separate two main clauses that are connected with coordinating conjunctions such as "and," "but," or "or," and include a comma before the conjunction. She also explains that on several circumstances, comma splices can be fixed using a period or a semicolon.
Ex.
Wrong- I ran outside, she ran after me.
Right- She ran after me when i ran outside.
Wrong- Nelly went to the store to buy a dress, she forgot her wallet.
Right- Nelly went to the store to buy a dress, but she forgot her wallet.
Roger Rosas, maybe next time give examples of comma splices to help us better understand how you developed the sentences you wrote.
-Lucy Salguero
to: spicy sandra- For that first example you gave you can just reverse the sentence and add "so" to it and it would also be correct. It would say "His mother was taking her time to get ready for work, so Andy was late for school." For the last example "Helen says she's cool. She has the stunna shades to show it." You could just take the period off and add a comma then an "and." that would make the sentece sound better.
We usually use commas when we join two independent clauses with a coordinating conjunction such as:
And; but; or
Ex1:
My brother said i would get scared, but he was the one screaming in the audience.
If i were to eliminate the coordinating conjunction "BUT" and just add the comma:
My brother said i would get scared, he was the one screaming in the audience.
THE would be WRONG. This is called comma splicing. So rather than using an incorrect method of comma placement, we can separate the two COMPLETE and IDEPENDENT clause with PERIODS.
EX w/splicing: I had a horrible dream last night, my mom discovered me on a wet bed.
EX w/ period: I had a horrible dream last night. My mom discovered me on a wet bed.
yeah so it may sound choppy, but its gramatically CORRECT!
In a alterante route, if the two COMPLETE and INDEPENDENT clauses are RELATED to each other, then we can connect them with a semicolon.
My brother said i would get scared; he was the one screaming in the audience in the end.
The second clause developes the meaning of the first sentence. Therefore, we can use a semi-colon
'Till next time
Maddie Isaacs p2
triforcerocks
yes, i must agree that the triforcerocks, but i RULE HYRULE!!!!!!
.......wow why did i say that?
anyways, your example:
He was watching a movie, eating popcorn and candy.
you say that you can add a semi-colon after movie, but dont forget that these two clauses must be independent for this to work with a semicolon!
eating popcorn and candy is not independent; it depends on your first clause for its subject.
PS. TRY THE HADICAPPED THING NEXT TO THE WORD VERIFICATION...ITS CREEPY WHEN YOU"RE IN A DARK ROOM AT 11:15 AT NIGHT!
For this week's Grammar Girl topic, she talked about comma splices, which are errors made when a commas are used incorrectly to join two complete sentences together. In order fix the comma splice, also known as "comma fault," you can use periods, semicolons, and coordinating conjunction with a comma. She provides examples from Scott Sigler, to help the readers understand the differences among using periods, semicolons, and coordinating conjunctions. When the two complete sentences have a connection with each other, a semicolon is used; however, when the sentences are separate ideas, a period is used. Coordinating conjunctions are used to fix comma splices depending on the relation between the two sentences.
Examples:
During the summer, she often visited the beach, and her friends usually went with her.
The man did not respond to our questions; he could not hear among the loud noises made in his surroundings.
Response to Nelly Melamed:
I like how you briefly summarized, yet grasped the main ideas of the topic on "Comma Splice." Your examples are great as well.
In this weeks episode Grammar Girl talks about Scott Sigler, a person with bad grammar. She uses Scott to teach us how to correct a comma mistake. Commas can join 2 main causes with words like "and","but", or "or". We always want use a comma before conjunctions.
Ex 1 I like to skateboard at local schools, but school administrators do not like it when people skate in their schools.
Ex 2 I recently bought a skateboard, but the store didn't sell wheels.
@rogers - I thought you had a good summary and i thought you had good examples. I kind of don't understand your first example but I understand the 2nd.
Daniel Nadales
This time Grammar Girl talked about commas and how to use them, telling us how and when to use them. She explains where you need to add commas so that your sentence won't sound dumb, using "and, but, or" to join two main clauses would make your sentence a lot more better. This why commas are very important when writing.
EX: I bought eggs, milk, and juice from the super market.
Some people hate math so much, but they still manage to deal with it.
Daniel Nadales
Responses:
I liked your examples Zepshizzle haha. You know when and how to use commas which is good because you made it easier to understand.
The comma splice is one of the most common errors in student writing. A comma splice occurs when a write uses a comma to "splice" together two independent thoughts. Fixing a comma splice can be as simple as replacing the comma with a period. Sometimes, you can fix a comma splice by adding a coordination conjunction.
Ex. It takes five apples to make an apple pie, but it takes ten to make applesauce.
Ex. "By day the goldfinches dip in yellow light, and by night the frogs sing the song that never goes out of favor."
Response to Shawn B : you're examples are fine but your summary could use more content. there are a few things you forgot to mention, other than that good job (:
Diana Gonzalez P2
This weeks grammar girl talks about commas. There are many ways to use commas. One of the most common ways to use commas is to separate two main clauses that are connected by a coordinating conjunction. If two sentences are closely related to each other, you can use a semicolon to connect them. You can fix a comma splice by adding a coordinating conjunction.
Examples:
1. The game was over, but the crowd refused to leave.
2. Yesterday was her brother's birthday, so she took him out to dinner.
Melissa Flores Per. 5
On today’s Grammar Girl topic it talked about comma splice where it’s a comma used to splice together two complete sentences when it isn’t the function of a comma. Commas are mainly used to separate two main clauses that are connected by a coordinating conjunction meaning that when you join two things that could be sentences on their own with a word such as and, but, or or, you need a comma before the conjunction. When fixing a comma splice all you need to do is use a period where you would have had a comma.
Example:
1. Teenager boys love to play games with girls’ hearts, but really all they are showing is that they really don’t love themselves.
2. Doing Grammar Girl is not hard, it’s just my laziness that makes it a headache to do.
Vanessa Garcia
Period 2
My response goes to Daniel’s post. I love your sentence examples, they seem so confusing but true. In your response I didn’t really get what you were talking about because I didn’t read in any place about comma slice.
Vanessa Garcia
Period 2
Griselda Isaac
Grammar girl explains where a comma should be and when should it be used. She gives examples of what not to do and then corrects them with what she call the "Comma splice repair kit". The splice repair kit contains periods, semicolons, and coordination conjunctions. Commas are usually used right before a conjunction such as "AND", "BECAUSE" and many more.
Example:WHAT NOT TO DO
I fell,my shoelaces were untied.
Correct:
I fell, because my shoelaces were untied.
Example:
I bought some shoes,a shirt.
Correct:
I bought some shoes, and a shirt.
response to ALejandra
Hey your example"{correct}- Angie ran into her house, but her mom ran after her with the belt". is not quite correct. You should read it aloud and see how it sounds.
It should be Angie ran into her house, because her mom was running after her with a belt.
:)
In the pod cast 45, Grammar Girl talks about comma splice. Grammar Girl uses Scott Sigler’s work as examples of what comma splices are. A comma splice is the use of a comma to join two independent clauses and the clauses are not connected by a coordinating conjunction. One rule for joining two independent clauses are to put a comma before the connecting word (and, but, for, nor or, so, yet). Another rule to avoid comma splice is that if you don’t have a connecting word or a word different than the conjunctions use a semicolon.
An example of comma splice is, April is a very intelligent young lady, she has a lot to offer this world.
The correct way to write this would be, April is a very intelligent young lady and, she has a lot to offer this world.
Another example of a comma splice is, Raven read the novel, her friend saw the movie.
The correct way to write this would be, Raven read the novel but, her friend saw the movie.
i am making a correction to my own post. i accidently put the coordinating conjustions before i put the comma and this is a error on my part.
-Tea' Finley
Dear whisperinthewind0104,
Wonderful description of the pod cast. I can tell that you fully understood the material with your outstanding paragragh pertaining to the lesson.
-Tea' Finley
In this weeks episode, it discussed about putting commas in the wrong place. She called them "Comma Splices". There were three ways to fix the problem. Semicolons, coordinating conjunctions and sentences.
An example of using commas in the wrong place is to to this, and then not using the and, or not using the commas at all.
I have always had a pretty good understanding on where commas were suppose to go. Sometimes it just seems right to put a comma there, but then again you can be wrong. This week helped me enhance my knowledge on comma placement
Grammar Girl talked about how to use commas the correct way. She talked about Scott Sigler a guy that doesnt know how to use commas and the correct way to use them. Grammar Girl also showed an example of an incorrect way to use commas and it was very helpful to me because it was a mistake i oftenly made.
examples:
I hate sushi,and so does my sister.
I'm going camping,and all my friends are coming with me.
Yazmin Llamas
in this episode grammar girl talks about semicolons. I learned that semi colons separate two main clauses that are closely related to each other but that could stand on their own as sentences if you want them to. Also i learned the differences between semi colons and just colons. the purpose of a colon is to introduce or define something.
The second difference between a colon and a semicolon is that when you are joining things, you use a semicolon to join things of equal weight, whereas you can use a colon to join things of equal or unequal weight.
example#1- it was very hot; Trevor wondered if he would faint in the hot son.
example#2- it was very cold outside; Trevor got into a accident.
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