Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Grammar Girl #9.141: “Appositives”

Write a summary (use your own words).

Write two examples - this time (and from now on) use sentences from your own writing (either from our class or from another class) that demonstrate the rule or break it (and then you'll fix the sentence).

Of course, also when you respond to your classmates don't just put you like their post. Make sure to have a meaningful response. Note - if someone already corrected a person, then don't do the same thing. Read a different response and offer a new correction. Also, if you say there is an error, suggest how to fix it.

One last thing - watch your own examples and grammar.

67 comments:

Anonymous said...

Grammar Girl this week briefly explains the correct usage of Appositives. An appositive is a noun, noun phrase, or series of nouns used to identify or rename another noun, noun phrase, or pronoun. When dumbed down it means a word or group of words that identifies or renames another word in a sentence. The two types of appositives are essential information or extra information. If it’s the extra information type then it gets bombarded by commas. When it’s the essential information you have no commas. In conclusion, stay alert and catch your mistakes because appositives are tricky.

Example:

Extra information:
1. A one-legged ninja, Bob, earn the name quick feet.

Essential information:
2. The musician Smith has agreed to play godly music when I walk.

<@;) <--- The Clown


- Rosas, Roger

Anonymous said...

This week on grammar girl she talks about the correct way of using appositives. First of all, a appositive is a noun or a noun phrase that is placed next to another noun or phrase that identifies it. Some appositives can be essential and others can be extra, which is why you have to determine which one it is. In this case, only the extra information appositives are placed with commas. If it is essential you do not need to add any commas. Its pretty simple the extra information you may have the extra commas you are going to add. If you can remember this you will understand this concept.

Ex.
" Lawyer Charlie helped defend his client to win his case."
---- This is an example of essential information which means there is no need of commas.

Ex 2.
" The red haired lady, Susy, decided to depart from Los Angeles to Barcelona for her birthday."
--- This is an example of extra information because you are describing how the person looked, without describing her, it would also make sense.

Be aware of appositives because they can be tricky.

---- Karina P.

Sarahalg said...

Todays GG podcast is about the meaning of appositives and when it is correct to use them. An appositive is a noun or a phrase that helps identify the subject or object that is mentioned in a sentence. Appositives are important when writing because they help emphasize the subject of a sentence; however, sometimes appositives can be essential information or extra unnecessary information. It all depends on how you write a sentence. For example,:

1. In the movie, Liar Liar, Jim Carey plays a fast- talking lawyer.
-> Here, the name of the movie is extra information because with or without tis appositive the sentence would still make sense.

2. Their phone number can be found with the couselor Mr. Johnson.
-> Here, the name of the counselor is essential information because there can be many counselors. The name makes it specific.

To make sure that your writing is not missing or overusing appositives, just see if the sentence can stand alone without it. And if you have a hard time remembering when to use appositives, just remember GG's note-"extra information, extra commas."

SARAHALG....

Comment to RawrGrr->,
I understood your brief summary, but I did get confused by your first explanation. Knowing that you explained it in simple words after helped. I think that you should try to go straight to the point. If you had placed your simpler explanation first, your idea would have gotten through to the reader faster. Your examples are very creative and original. Nicely Done!!!!!!!

SARAHALG

Unknown said...

This week, Grammar Girl discusses "Appositives". An appositive is a noun or noun phrase set next to another noun or noun phrase to help identify it. Meaning, a noun serves to identify the other noun, a subject. There are two types of Appositives. One includes essential information, while the other includes extra information. The sentence with the essential information doesnt include a clump of commas, as opposed to the sentence with the extra information. To help us remember this idea, Grammar Girl has included a phrase "Extra Information, Extra Commas".

Example:
"The server, named Mary, was clumsy when serving the customers".

Essentially, this sentence contains extra information that is not necessarily required. "Mary", is the subject, and doesn't need to be included. But since it is, extra commas are placed to make the sentence flow better.

Example:
"Publicist Shane Mar has agreed to cover our story".

Since this sentence includes essential information, extra commas are not placed.

SARAH:
Your last sentence sounds like it needs a comma before Mr. Johnson. Although I'm not 100% sure, and just listening by ear, it sounds like a run-on sentence sort of. It sounds better if the sentence sounded like this.

"Their phone number can be found with the counselor, Mr. Johnson"

--Vianney Bernabe p.2

whisperinthewind0104 said...

On today’s grammar girl the topic was about “Appositives”. An appositive is a noun or a phrase that is placed next to another noun or phrase to help identify it. Sometimes appositives can be essential information or extra information in the sentence that is not needed. You have to decide if the information is essential or extra. If it’s extra then you will need extra commas in the sentence. Appositives can be essential information or extra information in a sentence. But only appositives that have extra information get commas.

Ex. 1.Our vocational summer counselor, Dean Smith, was teaching us how to start a fire at night time.
2. Our vocational counselor, Dean Smith was teaching us how to start a fire at night time.

Ex. "My counselor from school, John Winchester, is helping me to find a summer job before I go off to college."
"My counselor, Jon Winchester is helping me to find a summer job before I go off to college."

-Alex Luviano

Spicy Sandra :) said...

Yooo! Hey everyone! Well, this week on Grammar Girl, she talks about Appositives. Appositives are nouns. Nouns phrase's or series of nouns used to identify or rename another noun, a noun phrase, or a pronoun. Appositives can be essential information or extra information. And only appositives that are extra information get commas.

For example...

"The asian boy, Billy, had spaghetti for breakfast because there was no more cereal."
-This is an example of extra information

And another example is...

"Brother David helped out Mary with her serious problem."
-This is an example of essential information

Well i hope i helped you guys understand :]


Peace Out!

-Sandra Fernandez

Spicy Sandra :) said...

My comment is to RAWRGRR!-->

I like the way you explained everything, BUT i think you should have gone right to the point, as Sara said. It'll confuse the readers less if you are just straight up. Other than that...you were FABULOUS!:]

Anonymous said...

In this weeks grammar girl she talks about appositives. Appositives are nouns or noun phrases that are placed next to other nouns or noun phrases that help identify it. Appositives can be essential or extra information.If an appositive is an extra it will be surrounded by commas and if its essential it wont. Appositives can be tricky especially because appositives require commas. So if your stuck on an appositive just debate if its essential or extra.

Extra appositive example:

What i have learned in the first paragraph is a thirteen year old boy, the narrator, is shot and wounded.

Essential appositive example:
Sonny was the thirteen year old boy that was shot.

Anonymous said...

Sarahalg your comment was easy to understand. Your examples are helpful when debating whether an appositive is an extra or is essential. Your comment also got right to the point and explained to the readers.

Yazmin Caro said...

This week Grammar Girl was talking about Appositives. It was kind of confusing to me but it was about how appositives are essential or extra information depending on how you use them in a sentence. If the information is essential then you dont use commas but if its not then you use extra commas.
ex.
1.essential: Doctor smith gave me some cold medicine.

2. extra: In biology,kim,a girl in my class,threw her work out the window.

Anonymous said...

In this weeks grammar girl she talks about Appositives.Appositives are noun phrases or nouns that are used to rename another noun.Appositves are also extra information that is not really needed but is still used.

for example.

bob the builder named bob builds things.

The one legged man john is disabled from doing variouse things.
Fernando Betancourt per.5

tea_finley said...

In episode 141 Grammar Girl talks about appositives. An appositive is a noun or noun phrase that renames another noun right beside it. The appositive can be a short or long combination of words. An appositive can either be essential or extra. Grammar Girl states that if appositives are extra then extra commas are needed.


One example of an appositive that has extra information is: Officer Webb, one of the security guards, caught the burglar.

An example of an appositive that has essential information is: The architect Larry Moore was the first on the construction sight.

tea_finley said...

Dear fernos478,

Your sentence is not a good example of an appositive.

Your example: bob the builder named bob builds things.

A correct way you could write this sentence to make it a good example is: Bob, a builder, builds many things.
This example is a appositive with extra information that is why commas are used.

Unknown said...

In episode 141, Appositive, Grammar Girl talks about the usage of appositives. Appositive is a noun or noun phrase used to identify another noun or noun phrase. Some appositives are either essential information or extra information. A good tip from Grammar Girl is “Extra Information, Extra Commas”. For you not to overdo or fail to use an appositive you should see if the sentence can stand on its own without the appositive.


Ex.

In the book, A Long Way Gone, Ishmael is always feeling guilty for what he did it while he was a junior lieutenant.
-This is an example of extra information because without the appositive it would still make sense.

Esther was the nurse who gave Ishmael the Walkman.
- This is an example of essential information because without the appositive we wouldn’t know who gave him the Walkman.


Alex, your summary is well written and shows you understand the concept. The only thing is your examples are a little confusing to understand. It would have been better if you explained them.

-Lucy Salguero

Unknown said...

In episode 141 of grammar girl she talks about appositives. She explains what an appositive is(a noun or a noun phrase that is placed next to another noun or noun phrase to help identify it) and then she explains why they are needed( for essential information or extra information).

Ex. The lead drummer, Jimmy, nailed the drum solo.

Ex. The counseler, Mr. tard, would'nt let me switch classes.

Roger i liked the fact that you brought the summary to more detail it helped me understand the topic even more.

Joseph C.
per5

Anonymous said...

RawrGrr,

I believe you did well on this weeks grammar girl although, i do beleive that on your explaination i did get a bit confused by the way you explained appositives. Besides this your examples did help understand this concept better. I would just like to say to just breif and to get straight to the point besides, this you did good. =)

justin said...

This week Grammar girl was about Appositives. Grammar girl says that appositive is a nouns, noun pharse, or more nouns nexts to it that identifies it. Appositives are place with commas. It is two types of appositives. The two types are essential information and extra information.

Ex: The long hair, big eye, big foot girl loved to song all day long.

Ex: May was her dress so much, May had it framed.

justin said...

Lucy you show that you get it and understand it.

Snoooorrrllaaxx! said...

Episode 141 of Grammar Girl was about appositives. An appositive is a noun that is put next to another noun to help identify that same noun. Based on the this episode there is not a real positive or negative outcome to using appositives. When the information being placed is essential, than you don't need commas. However when the information is extra then you do need commas.

Examples:
Extra: The zombie hunter, Timmy, hunts down zombies for money.
Essential: Brigadier General Hughes commanded my squadron to proceed into enemy territory in order to push the enemies back.

My reply goes to Yazmin. I know she stated in her summary that an appositive was tricky for her to understand however it's not terribly hard. Think of it this way, an appositive is just a person, place, or thing that is put next to another person, place, or thing to help show what that first thing is.

Daniel Rodriguez
Period. 2

august burns red said...

Appositives is the topic being discussed by Grammar Girl. She explains what an appositive is which is a noun or noun phrase placed next to another noun or noun phrase to help identify it. She tells us that appositives can be either essential or extra information. Appositives that give extra information are riddled with commas. Grammar Girl then goes on explaining how to properly identify appositives also when and how to use them.

Example of extra information:
The police officer, Robinson, gave me a ticket for violating a restricted parking zone.

Example of essential information:
Winds of Plague immediately played Anthems of Apocalypse.

Response to Roger:
Hello roger i wanted to say your summary is good and to the point. It's just that in your example you made a mistake and i want to correct it. "A one-legged ninja, Bob, earned* the name quick feet."
Good examples though.

august burns red said...

August Burns Red is Francisco B.
P.2

Unknown said...

An appositive is a noun or noun phrase that renames another noun right beside it. There are two types of appositives, essential information or extra information. Extra information get extra commas, essential information you don’t use commas.

Ex. My sister, Jasmine, has silky black hair.
Ex. My amazing friend, Mary, karate kicked the bejesus out of Manny.

Response to Sarahalg: Wouldn't the sentence you used with the counselors have a comma? I mean the word counselor is essential because there are many counselors but here you are referring to only one. anyway, good job (:

Diana P2

Unknown said...

Grammar Girl talked about "appositives" and the correct way to use it. An appositive is a noun, noun phrase, or series of nouns used to rename or identify another noun, phrase or pronoun. Another thing she talked about was extra vs essential information. Extra information is basically an add on a comma showing that there is more information to that topic. "A nurse, Mike Barker", a nurse could be a bunch of different people. By me adding comma Mike Barker is just giving the reader more information about that nurse. Essential is basically the specific noun in the sentence. "Professional basketball player Kobe Bryant", using this sentence told us who that person was and what he did.

Example:

Extra:
A professional skateboarder, Jereme Rogers, received the rookie of the year award back in 2005.

A police officer, Bob Thomas, arrested 5 people in 3 hours.

Essential:
Professional skateboarder Andrew Reynolds front side 180 kick-flipped off of the Hollywood high school 16 stair set.


@Rawrgrr I understood your summary but your examples were kind of confusing. I feel like you could have put a more realistic extra information example but over I understand where your coming from.

fernando c said...

This weeks grammar girl is based on appositives. Appositives are nouns or lots of nouns used to identify another noun. There are two types of appositives, there is the essential info or the extra info. Essential information is when you have just the basic idea of the statement and the extra information is when you have lots of commas, quotations or other things that will show you different ideas or supporting evidence that will lead you to the same answer.

Ex 1. “The dog, pit bull, pet bite the little boy.”
This is an example of extra information

Ex 2. “Sunny would get in lots of trouble because of his friend”
This is an example of essential information because it is just telling you the main point of the statement.

I think that Sarahalg had very good examples and I like the way that she isolated the word that made it extra information.

Fernando C. Period 2

Unknown said...

This week, Grammar Girl talks about appositives. An appositive is a noun or a noun phrase that is placed next to another noun or noun phrase to help identify it. Appositives can serve as extra information or essential information depending on how necessary it is to the sentence. If the appositive is extra information then commas are necessary next two both sides of the noun phrase or noun. If the appositive is essential information then there is no commas needed. Overall, we should ask ourselves whether the information is needed or not. If it is then there are no commas. If it isn’t then there are commas.
Example 1: “In Manchild in the Promised Land, Claude Brown’s brother, Pimp, would be considered…” In my sentence, Claude Brown’s brother is the subject. Pimp is the appositive and the extra information; therefore, it requires commas.
Example 2: “In the novel, Claude, the narrator, uses a…” The extra information in my sentence would be “the narrator” because we know that Claude is the narrator.


Response to Fernando B :)
To me it seems that you did not really get what appositives were. Your examples show that you understand it a little but you dont show that you know how it works. For example you wrote "Bob the builder named Bob builds things." The correct way to write this would be: Bob the builder, named Bob, builds things.


- Mary G PER2

Anonymous said...

This weeks grammar girl talks about Appositives. An appositive is a noun or a noun phrase that is placed next to another noun or noun phrase to help identify it. Appositives can be essential information or extra information. Extra information needs a comma. Essential information does not need a comma. Here are some ways to use Appositives.

Example:

1)My cousin, Larry, bought a brand new car.
-extra information

2)My neighbor Ashley needed help with her groceries.
-essential information

Response to SpicySandra:

I liked your summary, it was straight to the point. You also gave good examples that show you understood this weeks grammar girl.

-Anthony W. Pd 5

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Unknown said...

In the episode 141 of grammar girl she spoke about "appositives," which is a noun, noun phrase, or series of nouns used to identify or rename another noun, noun phrase, or pronoun. Therefore she teaches you how to use it correctly. They help emphasize the subject of a sentence. However, sometimes appositives can be essential information or extra unnecessary information.

extra information:
ex. the one-eyed frog, carl, can hop higher than the others.

essential information:
ex. the math teacher carol agreed to show me more math to impress the colleges.

Unknown said...

comment to sarahalg- good explanation of appositives. maybe give more easy and explainable examples so the other people can understand it much better since appositives are hard. but good job by the way.

Great Gilly said...

This weeks grammar girl is about Appositives. Appositives are nouns or a noun phrases that is placed next to another noun or noun phrase to help identify it. The rule for appositives is that if the information is essential, you don’t use commas. If it is extra, you use extra commas. With that said, there are two types of appositives; Essential or extra. Only appositives that are extra information get commas. If the appositive is essential then you don't use commas. In the end you have to watch how you use these appositives because if you don't find it in your writing you can be using the wrong grammar!

Examples.

- The very smart girl, Jessica, didn't know how to do her homework for once.

- Singer Rosy always knows how to put a smile on everyone's faces with her voice.


Feedback to Fernando Betancourt,

i think you need to go back and look at the examples that was used in grammar girl because your example is wrong. MAybe the second time will do it!!

Unknown said...

This week on Grammer Girl, she talks about appositive. An appositive is a noun or a noun phrase. Essential information and extra information are the two types of appositives. If it's extra information, you need commas. Essential information don't need commas.

Examples:

1. A UFC fighter, Chuck Liddell, ran five miles.
--This examples is an example of extra information.


2. Chuck Liddell wrote a book about his life.
--This is an example of essential information.
We need to know the name of the person who wrote a book about their life.

hello justin,
I like your summary and your first example. You made a mistake on your second example.

Ex: May was her dress so much, May had it framed.

I think that you meant,"May liked her dress so much and she had it framed."

Good Work!

Sandra Viramontes
Period 5

Unknown said...

Grammar Girl this week informs us about appositives and how to use them. An appositive is a noun or noun phrase that is placed next to another noun or noun phrase. An appositive that is "extra" requires a comma while an appositive that is "essential" you dont use commas.

Example:
1. The parrot, Jack, kept talking and talking.
This is an example of an appositive that is "extra".

2. The athlete Jacob was incredibly fast.
This is an example of an appositive that is "essential".

Response to FernandoC.
Your examples did not make any sense and I don't think you really understood appositives.


Jeffrey Lopez
Per 5.

MegaJojo24 said...

In this episode about grammar girl it talked about Appositives.An appositive is a noun,noun phrase etc.There two types of appositives,one is the essential information and the other is extra information.

The very short man,Bobby Blitz,is a great singer

Unknown said...

Today Grammar Girl talksabout Appositives. An appositive is a noun or a noun phrase that is placed next to another noun which identifies it. Grammar girl tells us that there are two types of appositives. one is when it includes extra information and the other is when it includes essential information. This is the time that "extra information, extra commas," come in handy. Thesentence with the extra information includes commas.

Ex: The dancer, Adam, was interested in playing the piano.
-David in this sentince is extra information.

Ex: Adam was the guy who broke his girlfriends heart.
- Adam, in this case, is the subject and is essential.

Response: Vianney
In your first example you wrote ",named Mary," when it shoud just be comma Mary Comma. It sounds better.

Nelly
Melamed
Per.5

Anonymous said...

On another episode of Grammar Girl the subject is Appositives. An appositive a noun basically describing a noun. Some appositives can maybe essential or extra. In which only one can be followed by commas. Extra is one thats followed by commas the other one's not.

ex. The dog trainer, Chris, was attacked by his own dog.

ex. The cake maker Pam has made three different types of designs on the cakes.

Roberto Cabezas Per.2

Response to mary: good job explaining Appositives. I was able to understand your summary from the get-go. :)

ale said...

This week on Grammar Girl talks about Appositives. Appositive is a noun or a noun phrase that is placed next to another noun phrase to help identify it. The rule of an appositive is that if the information is "essential" you dont use commas but if it is "extra" you use extra commas.


EX: Extra information

My boyfriend, David, is turning nineteen on Sunday.

EX: Essentail

Murderer Joe has decided to turn himself in.

Alejandra N.
Per.5

TO Megajojo24 I think you should work on your examples a bit more. Clerify them and show if there "extra" or "essentail" and show why there that. Other than that good job.

Anonymous said...

What's an appositive? Oh that's right, Grammar Girl taught me what appositives really are. Appositives are basically nouns or noun phrases that are placed next to other nouns or noun phrases. The first and foremost thing to consider when using or detecting appositives is to decide whether they are essential or extra information. Basically, if the information is essential then there is no necessity of commas, but if the information is extra, then you would need a comma. There's one simple rule for this concept and that is, "Extra information, extra commas." As long as you remember this, you'll be fine.

Ex.1 "The Supreme Court justice, David Souter, was one of the justices that supported giving women the right to have an abortion." Since there were a couple justices working on this case, it makes David Souter extra information, therefore needing commas around his name.

Ex.2 "Supreme Court justice David Souter was appointed as the successor of William J. Brennan Jr." There is no need for commas around David Souter's name because this essential information and its specific becasue its talking about how Souter succeeded Brennan.

Response: My response goes to Philip. Although you only had examples of extra information, if I'm not mistaken, it shows that you understand the concept pretty well. Your examples were well written, so keep up the good work!

Fernando S. Per. 2

Jesse :) said...

Grammar GIrl talks about appositives which are nouns that are placed next to other nouns to identify them. There two types than appositives can be which are extra or essential information. If the information is essential than no commas are needed and if the appositives are extra information than you would need extra commas. To help us remember she said remember when there's extra commas than there's always commas.

Examples-
1. Jose was corrected by Ruth, the teacher when he used a sentence wrong.
The sentence uses extra information which is teacher because it talks more about the noun.

2. The president Obama talked about how to save the LAUSD district.
The sentence uses essential information because uses no commas.

Response- whisperinthewind
You used too much information to create an essential noun.

Jesse Machorro.

Anonymous said...

This weeks Grammar Girl describes how to use Appositives. Appositives are a noun or noun phrase that is placed before another noun or noun phrase to help describe it. As confusing as that sounds when read aloud it is actually quite simple if you just remember a simple rule. When writing, if you have extra information surround it by commas.

For Example:
My Friend, Frank, gave me a piglet.

In this sentence Frank is the "extra information". Therefore, I surrounded it with commas. What makes Frank "extra information", is the fact that without Frank's name the sentence is still comprehendable.

For example:

My friend gave me a piglet.

Essential information, no commas needed.

Everytime i use quotes i do a gesture with my hands... the quote gesture. :)

griseldaisaac:) said...

In this week topic Grammar Girl talks about Appositives. An Appositives is anoun with a noun phrase or series of nouns used to identify another noun. Appostives can be two different kinds. For example there is the Essential or the Extra. A tip Grammar Girl gives us is to remember "extra information, extra commas." Meaning the more noun and specific names there are then of course the more commas they will have to be.

Example, Essential: The best softball player in West L.a, Kerina Rodriguez, is very tall.


Extra: The principal , Mr. garcia is the best.

Extra because, there is only one principal at Hamilton .

griseldaisaac:) said...

response to RawrGrr

I think you got the extra and the essential misunderstood i believe they should be backwards.

ShaggyBox said...

This week, grammar girl covers appositives. Appositives are simply noun's or noun phrases that are used to identify another noun. They can either be used and "extra information" in which you would have to add commas, or they could be "essential information" that is needed to inform the reader which in this case would not need commas.

Examples:

The greatest rapper in the world, T-Pain, was on a boat.

The pianist Brandon Colman played an amazing solo in Royce hall.

In response to SARAHALG:

Your explanation helped me understand how to tell the difference between essential and extra information but i didn't really understand your second example and if was correct or not.

ShaggyBox said...

In my response i forgot to put my name.
Ricardo Fernandez Period 2

Anonymous said...

This week grammar girl talked about appositives.Appositives are basically a noun or noun phrase that helps to make the noun following it more clear. She goes on to say that appositives can be essential or they can be unimportant.There are rules for appositives that tell you whether something is essential or not. If it is essential commas are used, if not important then no commas are used.

EX.1
The old fisherman, John, was able to catch a lot of fish after the storm.

in this example the word john is not essential. commas are used and the sentence would not be changed if you removed the word john.

EX.2
While using 7th chord,while adding 9's, is just an extension of a chord.

Cris Garcia P.2

@ Francisco:

your first example is fine, but your second one confuses me.i really don't what is essential in that sentence.

Anonymous said...

This week, Grammar Girl's topic was about Appositives and their correct usage. Appositives are nouns, noun phrases or series of nouns used to identify or rename another noun, noun phrase or pronoun. There are two types of appositives, essential information and extra information. When there is extra information, the usage of commas is required but when there is essential information, no commas are needed. Appositives can have more than one interpretation which makes them very tricky.

EX. Essential Information
The singer Charlie Wilson from the Gap Band is going to sing at Snoop Dogg's wedding renewal.

EX. Extra Information
They boy who was wearing the black tuxedo, was his older son, Corde.

Anonymous said...

Cris, your second example is a little mixed up. I think you did two examples of the same type of appositive. Essential information is the one without commas and extra information is with a lot of commas.

Giovanna Murray PER 2

Raymond said...

Grammar Girl explains appositives and ways to identify and use them. An appositive is when you use a noun or noun phrase next to another noun or noun phrase to help describe or identify it. Appositives do not need to have commas, but they could have the punctuation mark depending on whether the information is important or not really needed in the sentence. When the information is essential, the appositive does not have commas; however, when the appositive is extra information, it needs commas.

Examples:
(1) extra information:
Grammar Girl uses examples with Mary, a listener, and Jane Smith, a vocational counselor.

(2) essential information:
Unemotional person Judy usually had a listless expression.

Response to Rosas, Roger:
You have a nice summary, but your second example might be incorrect. To make the appositive essential, the sentence should be written as:
"Musician Smith has agreed to play godly music when I walk." If article "the" was placed in the beginning, then the commas should be placed before and after "Smith," making the appositive extra information instead.

Anonymous said...

oh, I forgot to put my name on my summary...oops!

Giovanna Murray PER 2

Unknown said...

This week on Grammar Girl, she talked about appositives. Appositives is a noun or noun phrase that is next to a noun or noun phrase.It can be a positive information or an extra information.The you have to decide if the appositive is a essential or an extra.If it is essential, you don't use commas; but if extra, then you use extra commas. if it is at the beginning of a sentence then its only one comma, but if its in the middle of a sentence, then its surrounded by commas.

EXAMPLE 1:
Harvey Milk, a gay rights activist, fought for equality for all.
- here gay rights activist is an extra, therefore in the middle of the sentence and surrounded by commas.

EXAMPLE 2:
Gay rights activist Harvey Milk, fought for equality for all.
- here we moved his tittle to the front making it an essential factor to tie in Milk's name and if we tried cutting something out, the sentence just wouldn't work.

Vianney,
I was looking though everyones examples and yours just caught my eye. It was very clear and the examples were great! really good job!

Helen,
I would have liked to see an explanation after your examples, just to be sure of what it is exactly that is happening to that sentence and how that is an example of an appositive... besides from that, great job as well!

-Michelle Couto

Maddie.Isaacs said...

Appositives
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Appositives are nouns that are put next to another noun or noun phrase in order to further identify that noun....thats confusing heres a diagram

Noun/noun phrase <--> noun/nphrase
Ex: Noun <--> Appositive

If the Appositive is important to the discription of the noun than one does not need to place commas on either side.
Noun Appositive....

If the Appositive is not essential or just extra information, then one must place commas before and after the appositive
Noun ,Appositive,....

EX: important appositive
President Obama is looking forward to the senate vote on his Health Care Reform Plan
(let's assume we dont know who obama is)

EX: Extra info
Pimp,Claude's younger brother, was a foil to the main character.

_maddie Isaacs
p.2

Maddie.Isaacs said...

MrzTaken418

In your second example you don’t have two nouns next to each other. Or maybe im wrong. Are you correct by saying “was” his older son was the appositive or Corde the appositive. Im a little confused when the appositive is not near the beginning of a sentence
errr....

1:35am beat that!

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WEAR24BETTERTHANME said...

Grammar Girl discussed, in today's podcast, appositives. She explained that when a word is an extra, a name for example, it needs to be surrounded by commas. If it is not an extra, then no comma is needed. However, if the appositive is at the beginning of the sentence, you only need one appositive to follow it.

ex 1..My next throw, which was my second to last throw, I stepped on the runway, looked at my mom, and began to approach the foul line.
The "which was my second to last throw" really wasn't needed.

ex ..After the announcement, we began to warm-up, and of course, I was checking out my competition.
"we began to warm up" sounded good, but it really wasn't needed.

WEAR24BETTERTHANME said...

Michelle,

You show that you understand the podcast. However, you should reread your posts before you post them. "Appositives is a noun.." this is incorrect. You would write. "Appositives are nouns" or An Appositive is a noun". But good job.

Myshauna

WEAR24BETTERTHANME said...

Michelle,

You show that you understand the podcast. However, you should reread your posts before you post them. "Appositives is a noun.." this is incorrect. You would write. "Appositives are nouns" or An Appositive is a noun". But good job.

Myshauna

Anonymous said...

Response to FunkyFreshMeh

Your forgot to capitilize some words in your entry. Also some words are lackig a space in between them.

Anonymous said...

Today's topic # 141,grammar girl talks about appositives. Appositives are used when a sentence has extra information. if you have an essential then you don't need a appositives. Today i will show you when to use appositive and when not to.

Appositive Ex:
Even though she was hungry, Karen,
still did not eat.

Essential Ex:

She love going shopping at night.

Appositive Ex;
After the Grammy award, Lisa, was Happy
This comment goes to Raymond.

Your second example you used the word listless wrong. Your sentence said, Unemotional person Judy usually had a listless expression. You mean An unemotional person, Judy, usually have listless emotions.

Anonymous said...

This weeks grammar girl talks about appositives. An appositive is a noun or noun phrase that immediately follows another noun. An appositive explains or defines the noun it follows and is set off by commas.

Examples:
1. The insect, a cockroach, is crawling across the kitchen table.

2. Denver, the capital of Colorado, is the home of the Denver Broncos, the best football team in the US.

Melissa Flores Per. 5

Unknown said...

I apologize for my lateness. I only hope that I can still get some credit for this.

This week's grammar girl discusses appositives which are nouns used to describe other nouns. Appositives have two forms: essential and additional. For essential appositives in which the describing noun is needed in the sentence, no comma is used between the two nouns.

Ex: According to officer Jacob Batista, more police enforcement always equates less crime in any place.

"officer" is a title and cannot stand alone and therefore needs the Batista which is why there is no comma.

As you may have guessed, additional appositives require a comma. I'm going to tweak the last sentence to include a additional appositive instead.

Ex: According to Jacob Batista, an officer, more police enforcement always equates less crime in any place.

In this case the sentence would be just fine without the officer part (although less credible) so we use a comma to separate that extra information.

@kellyroberts:
Your 2nd example doesn't really work because there is only one noun. Also, ALL your examples are appositives examples (except the 2nd) so you need to put "extra" instead appositive as the description for example if you get what I'm saying.

Unknown said...

I keep forgetting to put this:

My name is Deonte Lang of 2nd period and I approve the previous message as well as this one.

Unknown said...

Appositives...confusion but necessary to further help improve one's writing skills. Grammar Girl starts out by stating what an Appositive is, which is a noun or a noun phrase next to another noun or noun phrase. There are 2 main ways to classify an appositive: extra or essential. Extra is used when you are giving additional information;if u delete it the sentence will convey the same meaning.

Ex1. My friend, Beatrice, danced all night and that's how she got her nickname "crazy legs".

and the other category is essential when you can't delete the appositive.

Ex2. Nurse Gaines helped me with my training in the summer so that I could work in the Hospital.

(In this case the name Gaines was part of her title and can't be deleted.)

My comment goes to Sarah A. I feel like you examples are very adequateand your explaination is very good. You know how to use appositives the right way. I have no comment on how to improve because you already know how to completely do the assignment.
Good Job Sarah! =)

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mvzblog said...

Grammar Girl's podcast, appositives was (obviously) about appositives and whether they are essentially or extra nouns placed in front of another noun in a sentence. If they are essential then they do not require a comma but if they are extra a comma is needed

Ex.

1.)The crazy waitress, Angela, gives terrible service.
2.)Doctor Johnson awarded me with a "high five" for facing the needle bravely.

Unknown said...

in this weeks grammar girl "Ellipses"
- ellipses are basically three dots you can use to make a sentence shorter. You can use quotes as long as you don't change the meaning. many people use ellipses on long emails or long quotes. You can use ellipses as a break or an pause. you should not use ellipses for other punctuation. Comic writers use ellipses the most

ex- Im going down to the store... but i forgot to get the milk

ex- That boy was walking down the street and ... out of no were he had got hit by a car

Trevor Benjamin
per 5

Unknown said...

Grammar Girl this week gives a very defining explanation of appositives. Appositives is a noun thats used to identify or restate another noun ,and or phrase .As well it has two different ways of identifying it, one is essential info (no commas), and extra info (has to many ^)

Example:

extra info:
billy, the brown dog, ran very quickly after the tennis ball.

essential info:
Famous baseball players are inducted annually into the Hall of Fame.

Unknown said...

On this weeks grammar girl the topic was on appositives. An appositive is a noun or a noun phrase that is placed next to another noun or noun phrase to help identify it. Appositives are important when writing because they help emphasize the subject of a sentence. There are two types of appositives and they are essential information or extra information. If it’s an extra information type then it gets bombarded by commas, but when it’s used as essential information you have no commas.
Examples:
1. In the movie, I Love You Man, Paul Rudd plays a character that is in seek to find a best man for his wedding.
-> Here, the name of the movie is extra information because with or without the appositive the sentence would still make sense.
2. You may go speak to Mr. Navas to see if you can still switch your schedule.
Here, the name of the counselor is essential information because there can be many counselors. The name makes it specific.

Response:
My response this week goes to Roger. I was just wondering, wouldn’t your first example be considered a essential information because that’s who got the name, but yet I can be wrong.

Vanessa Garcia
Period 2

Ms. Allen said...

All graded!