Choose any of the Grammar Girl podcasts to summarize, come up with examples for, and then still respond to another person's post.
Due before class on Thursday, 5.11.09
1- A 3-5 sentence summary of the podcast.
2-Two original examples that demonstrate your understanding (and/or relate).
3-Respond to 1 other classmate's post.
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I CHOSE GRAMMER GIRL PODCAST #134 TITLED "IS FUNNEST A WORD?" GRAMMER GIRL SAID THAT THE WORD FUN ACTUALLY STARTED OUT AS A NOUN BUT THEN ALSO BECAME AN ADJECTIVE. FUN UNLIKE OTHER WORDS CANNOT USE THE SUFFIXES "-ER" OR "-EST" BECAUSE THEN THE WORD SOUNDS WRONG. I FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT FUN IS A WORD THAT CAN'T USE SUFFIXES OR ELSE IT SOUNDS INPROPER.
AN EXAMPLE OF HOW NOT TO USE FUN WOULD BE:
-I HAD THE FUNNEST TIME WITH MY FRIENDS AT THE BEACH.
AN EXAMPLE OF HOW TO USE FUN IS:
-MY BEST FRIEND IS REALLY FUN TO BE AROUND.
(Juhyun Kim, per 3)
The episode I chose was "What to call people with disabilities."
When refering people with disabilities, we should be sensitive to the feelings of others. Calling someone as "crippled," "deaf," or "dumb" is too offensive. To avoid that, it's good to put the person first.
for example,
- He is a person with disability.
(rather than "He is a disabled person.)
It is important to treat people with disabilities as individuals. Their disabilities or disease do not define them.
It's better to say "She needs... or she uses..."
For example,
- She uses a wheelchair.
- She has a learning disability.
(rather than "she is a retarted person.")
Everyone has weaknesses and some sort of disabilities. I think we should be considerate of others' feelings.
*Response
- Nathalie Ruiz's episode sounds interesting. I have actually wondered before if I could say "funner" "funnest." But I just realized (thanks to Nathalie) that the word fun was originally a noun but people started to use it as an adjective. How interesting a language is!
Richard Chatman
Period 5
"Is Funnest a real Word?"
The word fun is actually a noun. Fun can also be used as an adjective.Nouns can be used to modify other nouns that's called attributive nouns. Fun unlike other words cannot use the suffixes "-ER" or "-EST",because the will word sounds wrong. A word that can’t use suffixes or else it sounds improper.People who accept that "fun" is an adjective are unlikely to embrace "funner" and "funnest."
An example to the way you aren't suppose to use it:
- I had the funnest summer vacation going camping,hiking,and fishing.
Example of the way you should use it:
- Camping is a really fun thing to do on my summer vacation.
Response: Nathalie Ruiz seems to have a clear understanding of the way you should use "fun". I agree with what she said and it give me a clear understanding.
Richard Chatman
Period 5
The episode that I chose was Episode 58, "Starting a Sentence With "However"." I learned that a comma is important because however is a conjunctive adverb that can be used in two different ways: it can be a conjunction that binds main clauses, or it can be an adverb that modifies a clause. If you use however at the beginning of a sentence (and do not insert a comma) however means “in whatever manner.” When you put a comma after however at the start of a sentence,it means “nevertheless.” Something that I found interesting was that many people don't know that it's okay to start a sentence with however, so it's a good idea not to use it very often. For example, you shouldn't use however to start a sentence when applying for a job, because many believe that it is wrong and may cost you the job.
Examples:
1. During the Long March, which was led by Mao Zedong, the troops were becoming weak and hungry. However, they kept on. (The however was used to mean "nevertheless")
2. The Lakers are my favorite team. However, I also like the Cleveland Cavaliers. (Since the comma was after however, it was used to mean "nevertheless," not "in whatever manner.")
Navpreet Singh
Period 6
Response:
I believe that Juhyun Kim had a great understanding of the podcast she chose. Her great understanding is evident in her detailed examples. I liked the examples that she provided, which explained how to refer to a disabled person. I agree with her that when referring to people with disabilities, one should be sensitive and considerate of others' feelings.
Navpreet Singh
Period 6
Episode number 15 talks about when titles should be capitalized. Capitalization of the title depends on the style your teacher or boss asks you for, so the best way to know is to ask for a style guide. Some may ask to capitalize the first word, to capitalize all the words or others may ask to capitalize only the nouns. Although, it may look different, capitalizing all the letters is an option too.
Examples:
#1 Of love and other demons
#2 Of Love And Other Demons
#3 of Love and other Demons
#4 OF LOVE AND OTHER DEMONS
Response:
Nathalie's podcast was informative because I had doubts on whether the words “funner” and “funnest” were correct. After reading her response, I learned that it is improper to use the words.
Noheli Jimenez
Per. 3
I chose Grammar Girl Dashes versus colons" because I didn't reallt know the difference. I also didnt know how and when to use them, and where to put them. It helped me a little but im still kind of confused.
ex: over the weekend i did alot of things and had alot of fun [now i am going to tell you what i did]. . .
ex:What he said was true - or so I thought.
im sure Nathalie and Richard knew about theres already =D
Episode number 37, Lay Versus Lie, Grammar Girl shows when to use lay and when to use lie. In the present tense lay requires a direct object and lie does not. But because lay is the past tense of lie, it confuses many people. So Grammar Girl provides a table in which we can print out and use to remember when to use the words.
Example:
She lies on the grass in the park.
She lays her backpack on the grass in the park.
Response:
I think the episode Juhyun did would be an interesting one to listen to. It seems as if the episode is very different from all the ones grammar girl does. Good Job Juhyun!
*RESPONSES*
I THOUGHT THAT THE EPISODE JUHYUN KIM CHOSE WAS INTERESTING.I THOUGHT THERE REALLY WASN'T ANOTHER WAY TO TALK ABOUT A PERSON HAVING A DISABILITY WITHOUT SOUNDING MEAN BUT NOW I KNOW THAT THERE IS.
i picked grammer girl 126 .I learnd that a homophones are words that sound the same and they mean diffrent things.i also learnd that through and thru are the same thing but if you use thru people are goingto think that your not perfetional.
eaxample-i went through the group of peopl at the park.
i went thru the group of peple at the park
i think that nathalie ruiz had a well understanding of the episodes that she did.and her example makes it easyer for me to understand
I chose podcast #169. In this podcast they were in a dbate on when the word for could be used in a sentence.They talked about how you would not encounter the word much because it's a formality to what is being said. It also showed us when the word should be used and where.
Here are some of my Examples.
Ex.1 I had to go home for I was too tired to go to the party.
I was tired after my trip for I was forced to bike up the hill in the hot after noon.
Ashika Ranasinghe (period 5)Best period ever!
" What to Call People With Disabilities."(#155)
This grammar girl was about different phrases to use when talking about someone with a disability. Some of the offensive terms are, crippled, mute, deaf-mute, and deaf and dumb. The preferred terms to use for people that can't walk are “disability” and “disabled". The preferred terms to use for people that can't see is, “blind,” but it’s better to say, “a person who is blind” than “a blind person." For someone who can't hear it's better to say "hard of hearing” or “deaf." no matter what disability someone has, you need to be polite and sensitive to that person and use an appropriate term.
Example #1
Larry is disabled because he is confined to a wheelchair due to car accident he had a year ago.
Example #2
Martha is fond of sign language because her mother is hard of hearind.
Response #1
I though Richard Chatman had a great understanding of his episode.
Response #2
Nathalie Ruiz did a great job explaining her grammar girl. She was very detailed with her examples and it helped me understand it more.
The Grammar Girl I chose was on the use of "who" and "whom." Who is used to represent the subject of a sentence while whom is reserved for the object of a sentence. This shows agreement between the subject and who and the object and whom. Who and whom, their distinction, and their usage are often mingled and confused. They are some of the most confused instances in English grammar.
An example of this is when you would say: John cleaned up the floor in the kitchen. The grammatically correct way to ask if one didn't know th person that cleaned up the floor would be: Who cleaned up the floor instead of Whom cleaned up the floor.
An example for the usage of "whom" would be: John shook George's hand. If someone didn't know this they would ask correctly: Whom's hand did John shake instead of Whose hand did John shake.
If someone said, "the man hugged the woman," the correct way to ask a question would be to ask: "whom did the man hug" or "who hugged the woman."
Juhyun Kim's response to the podcast she read was intersting. From reading what she said, the podcast seemed farther away from actual grammar than most Grammar Girl episodes. It also reminded me of the distinction between emotionally chraged language and neutral laguage that literally can mean the same thing but have different connotations and give off different feelings. A euphemism is used to substitute for some words with an offensive or outrageous connotation.
I chose Grammar Girl #169 which talked about the use of "For" in the place of "Because". Two out of three experts' say that, yeah it is fine to use "For" in the place of "Because". It gets a little hard to know who's right and who's wrong. Then again it all depends on certain examples.
Examples:
1. After class I was tired, for I had to run 3 miles.
2. When they came over the house I wanted to go to sleep, for they were being very loud.
I listened to the podcast on "which versus that." Grammar Girl said that the issue of word choice between "which" and "that" is what pushed her to start her podcasts! She was a technical writer and got tired of correcting people's usage of which and that.
The basic rule is that you use which if the information in the clause is expendable and doesn't change the meaning of the main part of the sentence. "Which" clauses are generally set off with commas because they are additional information. If the information is critical to the meaning of the sentence, use that.
Examples:
1. Chemicals that cause cancer should be banned. (Here, "that" is used because only cancer-causing chemicals are the topic of this sentence)
2. Organic pesticides, which are readily available, are just as effective as toxic pesticides. (Here, "which" is used because the availability is just extra information)
I want to thank Juhyun for listening to the podcast on what to call people with disabilities. I agree with Grammar Girl that we don't want to be labeled and it is much better to say a person with autism than an autistic. However, I think language conveys many subtle attitudes and the hard issue is how to refer to people who are non-disabled. Using terms such as "regular" kids or "normal" kids or "typical" kids conveys that I am irregular, abnormal and atypical. Personally, I prefer referring to you all as my nondisabled friends.
Jacob Artson, Period 6
I PICK THE EPISODE OF "BETWEEN ME AND YOU" PODCATS # 163.
THIS EPISODE IS ABOUT HOW THEY ARE ALOT OF DIFFERENT PRONOUNS AND THAT THERE IS ONE PRONOUN AND NOUN TO ITSELF. IF WE USE THE PRONOUN LIKE "ME" IT HAS TO BE AT LAST.
EXAMPLE:
1. (INCORRECT)ME AND HIM ARE GOING TO THE PARTY TOGETHER.
2. (INCOREECT) HIM AND ME ARE GOING TO THE PARTY TOGETHER.
3. (CORRECT) HIM AND I ARE GOING TO THE PARTY TOGETHER.
WE HAVE TO ALWAYS LOOK AT THE PRONOUNS AND HOW WE PUT IT TOGETHER IN A SENTENCE.
WE CAN PUT THE NOUN AND A PRONOUN ITSELF OR IT CAN BE TOGETHER, BUT ALWAYS KNW THAT "ME" AND "I" GOES AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE.
RESPONSE:
NATHALIE RUIZ EPISODE SEEM VERY INTERESTING...SHE PICKED A VERY GOOD ONE TOO. THE EPISODE SHE PICKED IS BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK THAT FUNNEST IS WORD AND SOME THINK THAT IS NOT. WELL AS I READ HER SUMMARY SHE WROTE THAT IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE SUFFIXES. VERY INTERESTING LIKE HOW SHE SAID.
PERIOD 3
EVA CRUZ
Michelle Arellano
The episode I chose was grammar girl podcast # 123 taking care of cliches. Grammar girl talked about how cliches can be a writers worst enemy. and how reader don't enjoy reading them. Cliches are the metaphors turns of phrases that have become overuse. cliche is something that has been use over and over constantly. cliches happen when a writter runs out of words to describe an action, or an event, the best way to avoid cliche is to use anti-cliche.
example: ( cliche) life has its ups and downs.
(Anti-cliche)Life has many obsticles that one can conquer.
I thought Nohelis responds was really good she made me understand when a title is suppose to ne capitalized or not I never understood when you were suppose to capitalize your titles, and now i have a better understanding of it.
I CHOSE PODCAST #169.
WHICH TALKS ABOUT REPLACING THE WORD BECAUSE WITH FOR IN A SENTENCE. I LEARNED THAT JUST BECAUSE IT DOESNT ALWAYS SOUND CORRECT DOESNT MEAN IT ISNT USED CORRECTLY.
EX#1
I FELL ASLEEP IN CLASS BECAUSE I STAYED UP TOO LATE.
I FELL ASLEEP IN CLASS, FOR I STAYED UP TOO LATE.
EX#2
HE GOT DETENTION BECAUSE HE WAS LATE TO CLASS AGAIN.
HE GOT DETENTION FOR HE WAS LATE TO CLASS AGAIN.
I STILL DONT LIKE CHANGING BECAUSE WIT FOR. IT SOUNDS RETARTED TO ME. I'D RATHER MUCH STICK ITH BECAUSE..LOL
freshtkfresh is RYAN HARPER.
-SORRY FOR NOT PUTTING MY NAME
I chose Grammer girl episode #68"Unlawful versus Illegal". Both words are the same, but different in a little way. Both words means something you can not do or can get you in trouble, but unlawful is a bit more easy going than illegal. Something unlawful like Jaywalking, means you can't do that act, but if you do its not that serious. But something illegal like killing someone mean you can not do it anytime anywhere.
My Examples:
Unlawful: You can't go past the speed limit of 35mph. But you may go 1 or 2 more miles per hour for a short period of time.
Illegal: Driving under the influence is completely illegal. No excuses.
Response: NUTMEG's Blog makes sense, but it lacks alot more explanations.
I chose grammar girl #137 Woman versus Female. I chose this one because I believe that many guys use female word as a slang or in a way to make a girl feel like an object.Grammar girl addresses this by saying that the term female is commonly use on animals or when you are writing scientifically. It is more reasonable to use the term woman or women instead of female because it also shows a sense of sexism which is not needed by using the term woman you are already adressing its a girl instead of pointing it out using the word female. Hopefully men will stop addressing girls as Females but as girls or women.
Ex#1
Look at those females walking over there. (incorrect)
Look at those girls walking over there. (correct)
Ex#2
The female down the street offered me help.(incorrect)
The woman down the street offered me help.(correct)
Response #1
I think Juhyun had a great podcast since we often make that mistake also.
Response #2
I think eva did a great job on her response and showed great examples.
-Zenaida Carrillo Per.3
In episode 58, "Starting a Sentence With "However"." I learned that a comma is important because however is a conjunctive adverb that can be used in two different ways: it can be a conjunction that binds main clauses, or it can be an adverb that modifies a clause. If you use however at the beginning of a sentence (and do not insert a comma) however means “in whatever manner.” When you put a comma after however at the start of a sentence,it means “nevertheless.” Something that I found interesting was that many people don't know that it's okay to start a sentence with however, so it's a good idea not to use it very often. For example, you shouldn't use however to start a sentence when applying for a job, because many believe that it is wrong and may cost you the job.
Examples
I went to the store however they were closed at nine o clock.
The Celtics were supposed to win however they lost do to injury to one of their main players.
In this specif gramamr girl, I chose to do proofreading because Im known to do that in my own writing. When proofreading the only way to fix this problem is to have some one else look at your writitng because they often see mistakes that you are unaware of. Other steps to proofreading are looking over your writing and reading your work backwards
Before proofread-
I nshot going yo the store
after proofread
I'm not going to the store.
I thought that laundius had good summary of his grammar girl it was very desciptive. But he had some grammatical issues, do and due are two different things laundo so fix that bro. act like your graduating high school! lol jpjpj
-courtnei
Well the Grammar Girl I chose is #169,titled Using “For” to Mean “Because.” She says that you can use the word “for” as a conjunction to mean “because” or “since,”but that you need a comma before it, so the sentence could flow better.
For Example:He had to go to the park, for he had to pick up his brother.
She says to be sure how to use them, because these words could be misleading and can confuse the reader, if you use "for" instead of "because" sometimes,it can make your sentence to a fragment. For example Grammar Girl's example was “For she certainly has worked very hard indeed.” If you change the "for" to " because", your sentence becomes a fragment.
-Guillermo Galindo
Per5
The episode I chose is called "Proofreading tips". I chose this episode so I can improve my writing and prevent my paper with silly errors and typos. In this episode, grammargirl mentioned some proofreading tips to help thwart these mistakes. Of all the four tips she pointed out, the most unusual one I found was reading my work backwards. I have never tried this but it sounds really interesting and convincing. Another reason why I am concerned is because I find grammatical errors and lack proofreading in my work when I look back into it. I only notice this after I have printed out my work and this causes my grades to fall.
Example:
Before proofreading, a sentence could contain many grammatical errors and even typos that we, as writers may not notice in our work, or even
Here is an example of a typo error:
She wennt tot the store yestrday.
Here is another example of an error when we tend to rush our work without proofreading:
"Helped at the park."
This error could be described as a fragment because it is not a complete sentence. Sometimes, I forget to look over my work when typing.
Responses:
I liked Nathalie's response on this episode because I wasn't sure if funnest was a word either. After reading her response, I now know how not to use the word funnest and the proper word instead is fun.
Christina Ruiz
Period.3
05.13.09
For todays grammar girl I choosed Using "for" to Mean "because." According to them we could use the word ?"for" to mean "because" or "since". Instead of using the word "for" you can just use the word "because". I learned that if you use "for" in the middle of the sentence to refer to "beacuse", you must use a comma before the "for".
For Example:
I needed money, for I didn't have a job.
Example 2:
She couldnt make it to the party, for she had to work late.
Response:
I read through Juhyun Kims response and thought it was pretty interesting. I agree with her, when refering to respect others feelings and how we say things about others.
Who Versus That
Episode 24
This episode is about using who versus that.You use who when you are talking about a person and that when you are talking about an object.
She uses examples like "The man that wanted to talk to you, or the man who wanted to talk to you".
ex.My dad is the one who sold the car.
That toy was in my way so it caused me to fall.
responce:I understand richards ex of the word funnest if its a real word or not n he showed me that its not a real word.
Keshondra Bain
Pd:3
english
my podcast was #96 May versus might.I learned that might is the past tense of may. you have to use might when you are referring to something that happened in the past. also it is better to use might when talking about something that is not happening.
my 2 examples are:
I may go to the movie saturday.
I might go to the party.
my comment for classmates:
Juhyun Kim 's podcast made me realize that we should never all people with diabilities because they are human beings with feeling so they should be treated with respect.
Epidsode #168 discusses issue about Toublesome Contractions. Some contractions that people come across everyday reading such as I'n, She'll, or he'll aren't much of a problem. Most contraction that involve "is" intend to cause confusion. With using "is" as a contraction you have to be careful. In sentences such as "Sherry's home" are not proper,you have to write it like "Sherry is home."
1) The dog's tired
The dog is tired
2) The computer's broken
The computer is broken
In "Dashes Verses Colons", grammar girl talks about when it's best to use a dash or a colon. Both a colon and a dash, can serve to introduce a related element after the sentence. The difference between a colon and a dash is that a dash is a stronger and more informal mark than a colon.
Grammar girl also talks about the difference between em dashes and en dashes. An em dash is longer than an en dash. The em dash is the kind of dash you use in a sentence.The en dash is used usually only to indicate a range of inclusive numbers.
[Examples]
em dash:
Our holiday in Flordia was terrible – too many storms.
en dash:
I left at halftime with the score stuck at 3–1.
Ana Santiago
Period:3
Grammar Girl#21 was based on Proofreading Tips. The podcast demonstrated examples on how to improve your typos. As writers we all miss typos and it's okay, because it makes us better writers as we proofread our work. Grammar Girl gave wonderful insight on how to proofread
Here are some examples.
1.Read your Work Backwards, this works better than reading from the beginning because your actually focusing on the words.
2. Read your work outloud, reading it out loud you tend to catch more typos
3. Always read a printed version of your work, because you are able to read all you work over.
The real key to avoiding typos is to having someone else proofread your copy.
Response: Cristina Ruiz, gave a wonderful explaintion with understanding for and because and how to imply it while wrtiting.
Peter Bowie Per.3
"Is funnest a real word"
Before doing this grammar girl I believed funnest was a word. This grammar Girl taught me that, fun unlike other words cannot use the suffixes "-ER" or "-EST",because the word sounds wrong.If I would have never did this I would still use the phrase "funnest".
Example #1- We had the funnest time when we went swimming.(wrong)
Example #2- The time we had was fun at the swimming pool.(correct)
Response:
Richard's grammar girl was great it gave good definitions. It almost sounds like Ms. Allen wrote it. Good job Richard!
The podcast I chose was #165 about acronyms, initialization and abbreviations. A shortened form of a word is an abbreviation. Acronyms are special kinds of abbreviations that can be pronounced as words. Initialisms are another type of abbreviation but they can't be pronounced as words. There's no strict rule to whether you need to put periods after each letter in an acronym or initialism. When you're using any kind of abbreviation in a formal document it is important to spell out the entire phrase the first time you use it and put the abbreviation in parentheses after the words.
Example #1
abbreviation-
Sept.= September
Example #2
Acronym-
NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration)
Response
I enjoyed Richard's podcast he chose. I never knew that funnest was not a word. We even did a podcast on superlatives and they never mentioned that funnest was never a word.
Courtne Dotson
per. 3
Podcast number 15 Capitalization. Capitalization is something that you are told by a teacher or your boss they tell you what word should be capitalized the beginning of the word or the the noun.
examples:
1. That girl is smart.
2. that girl is Smart.
response:
Nathalie had a good example for her podcast and she had a fully understanding of the podcast.
Pablo, Alyssa
Period 3
For GG # 7 I selected Episode 52: Text Messaging Grammar. In this Grammar Girl episode she explained that there are different settings. Formal - job, school. Informal Setting - an email to a friend. Lastly some things that falls in the middle in which your own judgement is the call. She brings up the use of text messaging lingo withing Twitter and when it is okay to use. Simplied spelling is something to be cautious of.
Examples
1. n-i-t-e for night
2. t-h-r-u for through
Comments
I enjoyed Gregs post because he goes beyond what is expected on his Grammar Girl post. Greg analyzes and provides his own personal comments.
I chose Grammar Girl #134 "Is funnest a word?" In the episode Grammar Girl #134 it talks about how the word fun started as a noun but then it became a adjective.The word "fun" can't use the suffixes "-er" or "-est because then it'll sounds wrong. We still use "-er" and "-est" with the word fun.
Examples:
Incorrect- I had the funnest time at the party last night.
Correct- I had a fun night at the party.
Response:
I like the Grammar Girl that Noheli used it was interesting.
I chose Troublesome Contractions a contractions is the bind of to words and you use a (') thing is with a none it better to spell things out the man's mad use the man is mad or use had/would i'd all read been there i had or i would ppl don't know avoid I've
ex:
using is
the boy's right there
the boy is right there when you not using an noun that spell it out
the boy;s dog is ok
i like nathliruiz examples the good and i understand what she is talking about good
lakiarra lofton
per.5
5/26/09
I chose Grammar girl podcast 134. The title of that podcast is "is funnest a word" The word fun was explained that it started out as a noun the n was also used an an adjective. The suffixes "-er" and "-est" cannot be used wit da word fun. the word fun cant use suffixes and even it it could the word would sound improper.
Ex.
He is funner to be with.
Paul Lopez
In Grammer Girl Episode 45: Comma Splice i learned that one of the most common ways to use commas is to separate two main clauses that are connected by a coordinating conjunction.Also To join them with a comma, you need the word “and” or some other coordinating conjunction.
Ex1:I hit the ball so far, and watched it go miles away.
Nathalie's examples are good.
=Chris Gallardo
per.5
Im going to do Grammar Girl #2.111. She eas just showing you how to use a singular nouns. Also she said that a singular nouns can't go with a plural verbs.
EX:
1)Everyone is not at the game.(no)
Everyone are not at the game.(yes)
2)Everybody are going to the USC game.(yes)
Everybody is going to the USC game.(no)
A Nathalie you forgot to post a comment
Brenton Wright
Per.5
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