Acronyms are often used to make a longer name shorter and easier to say. For example instead of saying, "Please insert your personal identification number now." You would usually say, "Please insert your PIN number now." Acronyms make life easier, but they also make life a little redundant by repeating the same thing. When you say, "Please insert your PIN number," you are really saying "Please insert your Personal Identification Number number." You are being redunant by needlessly repeating number when it is already in the acronym. These are known as acronym redundancies.
Here are some examples of acronym redundancies: 1. SAT test -- ScholasticAssessment Test test
2. RAM memory -- Random- Access Memory memory
There is really no way of avoiding acronym redundancies because we use them all the time in our conversations. But before saying such an acronym, just think a little about what the acronym means before adding another word at the end that will make it redundant.
Grammar Girl this week talk about redunant and how many people repeat themselve while using acronyms. Many of us make mistakes when using them. For example grammar girl gives one such as PIN. A lot of people say can i have your PIN number but they should know that PIN stand for Personal identification Number. So they are repeating themselve. The advice is that before you are going to use an acronym then you should make sure what it stands for so you wont catch yourself being redunant.
Grammar girl talks about how her work is very inspirational in her grammar girl, and she also mentions acronyms that are used improperly. She calls them redundant acronyms.These are used improperly by many people just because they sound right. the correct way to use them sounds strange so we make an improper use of grammar.
Is it really easier to just use acronyms than to say the whole name of whatever you're trying to say? Well it depends on whether you're using the acronym correctly; thats' exactly what Grammar Girls talked about this week. Sometimes there are things that have really long names, so people tend to use their acronyms, but what they don't understand is that they may be using the acronym redundantly. For example, "Thanks to the UPS service, I was able to read my book on time for English class." The UPS stands for United Parcel Service, so do you see how this is redundant? You're actually saying, "Thanks to the United Parcel Service service, I was able to read my book on time for my english class." You are repeating the word "service". These kind of situations are known as acronym redundacies.
Ex.1 An example of a redundant acronym is, "Thanks to the IRS service, David Souter was able to pay more attention to his job."
The correct form should be, "Thanks to the IRS, David Souter was able to pay more attention to his job. It can also be, "Thanks to the Internal Revenue Service, David Souter was able to pay more attention to his job."
Ex.2 Another example of a redundant acronym is, "The Supreme Court isn't a big fan of NFL league players."
The correct form should be, "The Supreme Court isn't a big fan of NFL players." It can also be, "The Supreme Court isn't a big fan of National Football League players."
Response: My response this week goes to Cris Garcia. Your summary was brief but very good because you mention the major points of this week's Grammar Girl. Your examples show that you understand the concept of redundant acronyms. Overall, it was a good job!
This weeks Grammar Girl discussed redundencies when used in acronyms. She explains that the use of the acronyms simplfy life so adding words thats are already included in the acroynym defeats the purpose. For example:
*FDA administration --Food and Drug administration administration (adding another administration is redundant)
*WWE wrestling --World Wrestling Entertainment Wrestling
My comment this week is towards Grammar Girl herself. Grammar Girl says that saying PIN number is wrong but I think that including the word number is useful even though it is redundant. People could easliy mistake PIN for pin the kind you wear. So by saying." do you have your pin?" you maybe confusing someone instead of stating the redundancy! Michelle V. per:2
In this weeks grammar girl is about using acronyms. Grammer girl says that throughout her writing she realizes that she is using some acronyms incorrectly in which she calls these redundant words. She uses an example with the words "pin number". The word PIN actually stand for Personal Identification Number, so with saying PIN number you are actually saying Personal Identification Number number. There is no need for thw word "number" to be repeated twice at the end.
Example 1: The correct way to use an acronym would be CEO because it only stands for Cheif Executive Officer, not Cheif Executive Officer officer.
Example 2: Another correct way to use an acronym would be CALL which stands for Computer Assisted Language Learning.
An acronym is a word formed from the initial letters of the word or words one is trying to shorten. However, it can become a little redundant using the acronym. These acronym redundancies are usually found in sentences like this: “After running the PCR reaction, transfer the amplicon.” PCR means polymerase chain reaction, so one would really be saying: “After running the polymerase chain reaction reaction, transfer the amplicon.” So even if it sounds weird, it's best to avoid acronym redundancies.
Ex. Your APR rate is 25%.
This is obviously an acronym redundancy.
Your APR is 25%.
Ex. It's three A. M. in the morning.
This is not an acronym redundancy since A. M. means Ante Meridiem.
You actually have a good point. Many acronyms do stand for something else like pin, ram, basic, and dc. Though it could probably be cleared up if one doesn't have a pin or a ram.
GG discussed redundant acronyms. Acronyms are usually used to shorten names. But sometimes they can become redundant. The examples she used were PCR reaction and PIN number. PCR reaction = polymerase chain reaction reaction PIN number = personal identification number number
On this weeks grammar girl the topic was about “Excessive Redundant Redundancies”. Grammar girl talks about phrases to make sure that we do not use the same word over and over again. Like for example the way I repeated “over and over again.” Lots of people make mistakes when using acronyms. There are lots words that have long names. That’s why people use acronyms. For example, my friend got the Nintendo DSI for his birthday. It means “Nintendo Dual Screen Improve.” These kinds of situations are acronym redundancies and sound better if you shorten them.
Ex. An incorrect use of a redundant acronym, One of the fields that I want to study in is IDTC computers.
The correct way to write a redundant acronym is, One of the fields that I want to study in is Integrating Database Technology Computers
Ex. Another example of a redundant acronym is, “Some people that I know don’t even watch the NBA playoffs at all, and they call themselves basketball fans.”
The correct way to write this redundant acronym would be, “Some people that I know don’t even watch the National Basketball Association playoffs at all, and they call themselves basketball fans.”
This weeks Grammar Girl was on redundant acronyms. An acronym is basically a symbol made up of letters. A redundant acronym is an acronym that has the acronym part in the beginning but then is followed by the word that the last letter in the acronym stands for.
For example: UAV Vehicle= Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Vehicle. It's redundant because all you need is simply UAV.
Another example is an EMP Pulse. EMP Pulse = Electro-Magnetic Pulse Pulse.
@ JosephC I like how your comment gets straight to the point of what Grammar Girl taught us. However I wish you could maybe just improvise and expand a little bit more.
Grammar Girl this week explained how people use acronyms and often say the last word in that acronym, (redundant word), for example: PIN number SAT test NBA basketball,etc. These false used acronyms are called acronym redundancies. Acronym abundances are incorrect but commonly used. Jiron P5
This week on Grammar Girl, is on redundant acronyms. Acronyms are used to make a name shorter than what it is, basically like using abbreviations. In other words, they make life easier than having to write the whole word. Some acronyms seem to be redundant because they seem to repeat the same thing. For instance Grammar Girl used an example of HIV virus, when the V also stands for virus. This is adding a redundant word.
Ex. I am going to the ATM machine. ---In this example ATM machine is using a redundant word. The M stands for machine. In other words you are saying “I am going to the Automated Teller Machine machine, which is wrong.
Ex 2. Can you give me your ISBN number of your book? ---Once again, this acronyms is using redundant words that is unnecessary. You are saying “ Can you give me your International Standard Book Number number.
As grammar girl says it’s important to remember and say what acronym you are using before you add another redundant word at the end.
Joseph C , You showed u understood this concept, although I believe you should explain it in more detail. Besides this your examples were good.
I have to agree with Michelle V comment. I don't think its that big of a deal to use acronym redundancies, if you ask your friend to enter their pin number they wont have any confusion, rather if you told them enter your PIN they'll have to take a moment process what a PIN is again. Jiron E p5
This week Grammar Girl talks about acronym redundancies. Acronym redundancies are the result of not being aware that the last letter of the acronym is the same as the word sad right after. The example Grammar Girl gave us was PIN. People usually would ask for someones PIN number. What their saying wrong is that the N at the end of the acronym stands for number. For example: ATM- People usually say ATM machine. What their saying wrong is that the M at the end of ATM stands for machine.
Response to cris: I don't think Griselda has any bad examples. She actually has good examples, which are clear and understandable.
This is Roberto's post not Daniel's. Roberto was having trouble with his post so he asked me to do it for him, and so I did. Here you go.
On another episode of Grammar Girl, she talks to us about the usage of acronyms. Acronyms are words put into a shorter term to understand. Like the example used if PIN. This means Personal Identification Number, so everytime you go to the mall or grocery store, once you swipe that credit card they ask you for your PIN number.Also its known as acronym redundencies when repeating the same thing over and over.
Ex. NAACP-National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
Your summary was very good, especially your diction. However, as I read other peoples' summaries, I realized that they all explained what acronyms were and then defined acronym redundancies. This week's gGrammar Girl wasn't much to work with, but your writing quickly gets the point to the reader. NICE JOB!!!!!!!!!
Response to FunkyFreshMeh: You only have one example, and that example has been used already. It's a good one but you might want to use something different.
This weeks grammar girl talks about acronym redundancies. acronym basically simplifies life so adding words that are already included in the acroynym is a waste of time. Basically there abbreviations to titles with a long name.
1.example- CAT test = California Achievement Test test 2example- DWP+ Department water and power 3. example- CHP= California Highway patrol
i like what Sarahalg said she provide good examples and is very precise.
In Episode 12 Grammar Girl speaks of redundant acronyms. First off, an acronym according to Dictionary.com is "a word formed from the initial letters or groups of letters of words in a set phrase or series of words". When either saying or writing an acronym, some people may have a tendency to repeat a word that is incorporated in the acronym, making the added word redundant. It may be a habit to some people but it is one that can be easily removed and improve your writing or formal conversation.
An example of a redundant acronym would be:
My LCD Display broke!
Liquid Crystal Display Display
or
I'm going to go hit up that GOP party! Grand Old Party party
Response to Chris: In your second example "EX:DMV- this one is used properly, when you go to the DMV is says just DMV not DMV department." you used the word is when it should have said it. This may have been a typo and it is only a minor mistake but it could make a difference when it comes to being graded. Reread what you wrote out load; it really helps when it comes to trying to catch a mistake.
In episode 18, Excessive Redundant Redundancies, Grammar Girl talks about what acronyms are. Acronyms are regularly used to make a long phrase shorter and simple to say. Sometimes by not thinking twice of what the actual acronym stands for it can make a redundant abbreviation. A commonly used redundant acronym is HIV virus which actually stands for Human Immunodeficiency Virus. So you won’t need to put the virus after HIV.
Ex.
Due to the bad economy, many haven’t had money to buy the TV with LCD display they wanted. - LCD display- Liquid Crystal Display display. No need for display.
It was impossible for the students to find the LAN network at school. - LAN network- Local Area Network network. No need for network.
Trevor B, your summary is right to the point, but you should have given an example of the acronyms being used in a sentence.
In today's grammar girl she talked about acronyms and how often there used incorrectly. Grammar girl mentions the example of PIN number. PIN stands for Personal Identification number. So people often say " please enter your PIN number", and there really saying "please enter your personal identification number number. Acronyms are shorter and simpler to use but often are redundant.
Examples of acronyms:
IRS Service Internal Revenue Service service
DCSS Service Department of Child Support Services Service
Carlos.Taquitos Next time you should explain why grammar used the example she used, so the reader can understand better
This week grammar girl talks about redundancies and how to aviod them. Rdedundancies are often used when one uses acronyms because one repeats oneself. She uses an exazmple of "PIN number" to demonstrate how redundancies are careless flaws in speech.
Example: I will be attending the University USC. This is redundant because the word university is used twice and the first use is not necessary.
example: The ATM machine. Stands for automatic teller machine machine and the redundancy is obvious with the use of machine twice.
Response to griselda: Gris you gave three examples of whatredundancies are and you seen to understand thetopic. However, you should explain the examples and tell why they are redundant. If you do that, you wont forget and avoid redundancies in your speech because you tend to use them when you speak. :)
In this week's Grammar Girl, Grammar Girl points out common mistakes made using acronyms. Many people write the acronym and then add an extra word to it which are redundant because one of the letters in an acronym could actually stand for that word. It is hard to not use redundant words after acronyms because we use them quite frequently. When using an acronym, make sure to take a second and go over what they stand for before writing them and risk making a mistake.
EX.I need the ISBN number in order to find your book. ISBN number-International Standard Book Number number
The word number is not needed at the end of this acronym because the N already stands for number.
EX.I can't use the internet until I get on a LAN network. LAN network-Local Area Network network
The word network is unnecessary or as Grammar Girl would put it "redundant".
response to Jiron: Your summary is short and to the point but I think you were such in a rush that you called them acronym abundances instead of redundancies.
Acronyms are a way to say something in a shorter way. Although they make life alot easier, many people use them incorrectly. Some people amy say part of the acronym right after it which is redundent because you are just repeating what you just said, which is wrong. People don't mean to do it but its just in the back of their heads. It's just a small thing but something that we should look out for.
Ex.1 "I am ready to take my ACT test." In this sentence i said, "I am ready to take my American College Test test". See I repeated the word "test" which is already included in the acronym.
Ex. 2 "When texting not many people use the HTML language even though its an option as a form to text." HTML language stands for Hypertext Markup Language language. i repeated the word language.
In the end, acronym redundancies are not completely avoidable because they already exist and many people out there say this common mistake. But you can think about what you say before you say it so try to make sure you dont make this mistake.
My comment goes to the 2nd period. I like all of the summaries I read, there could be some modifications here and there but the overall work is great. Since its the last grammar girl of the semester I wanted to address my comment to everyone! Good job and keep it up!!! =)
In this weeks Grammar Girl, she talked about the redundant acronyms.She explains how when many of us use an acronym we add another word that completely defeats the purpose of the acronym. For example, many say "HIV virus". The V in HIV stands for virus so adding virus at the end is meaningless.
Examples:
- RAM memory. The M stands for memory.
- LAPD department. The D stands for department.
In both examples the extra word is redundant.
Response to Michelle V.:
Nice summary. It's to the point. As for your response to Grammar Girl, I think you have a point but you have to take into account where and what the person is doing.
Because of all the texting and abbreviating people do nowadays, I can understand that many people make the mistake of using redundant acronyms. But when one is trying to have a sense of professionalism, I believe it is in that person's best interest to comprehend what the acronyms in his or her writing.
1. I remember this example of redundancies because my middle school is located right next to the "La Brea" tar pits. -- the "the tar" tar pits. Very redundant and this one isn't even an acronym. 2. Here's a example where people use the acronym correctly. When you refer to the University of California in Los Angeles' campus, you say the UCLA campus. Here there aren't any redundancies so kudos to the college system for using acronyms correctly.
To Luis: I appreciate that you addressed your last comment to the entire class. In your examples, I don't think you needed to use the acronyms in sentence form (just identifying them would suffice). But you did complete the assignment and for this I applaud you.
In episode 18 Grammar Girl explained the usage of redundant acronyms. Acronyms are used to make a long name shorter and easier to say. Some acronyms seem to be redundant because they seem to repeat the same thing. For example HIV virus is redundant from the repetition of the word virus. The redundant word can be easily removed to improve your writing. It' is sometimes tricky to not use the ending word.
Example:
FAFSA: Free Application for Federal Student Aid
GMC: General Motors Corporation
Response to Trevor: You forgot to capitalize a word. - Rosas, Roger
on this weeks Grammar girl she talks about redundant acronyms.Redundant acronyms are basically the beggining part of the acronym but then it is repeated at the end of the last acronym that it stands for.An acronym is just a few letters that mean something big but it is just simplified.Acronyms are fun to use when you need to say things in a rush or when yu dont feel like typing the whole thing
Examples NFL national fotball league league
MLB Major League Baseball baseball
NBA National Basketball Association association Fernando Betancourt per 5
In this week's Grammar Girl she talks about redundant acronyms. It's basically about how when you abbreviate something ending a words and then using that same word right after for example PIN number, which is personal identification number number... here two "number" are being used when it is actually unnecessary. Think about what words the acronyms stand for so you don't end with the same word.
EXAMPLE #1: "I have to take the CAHSEE Exam." CAHSEE stands for California High School Exit Examination making it redundant when you add the exam after examination.
EXAMPLE #2: "She wants to find the IQR range" You are basically saying interquartile range range... redundant...
Joseph C... your examples weren't even examples, you just wrote out what two acronyms stood for... that takes no brains and i feel like you tried to take the easy way out.
In this weeks Grammar Girl, she focuses on redundant acronyms. Acronyms are used to make a long title brief. A common mistake people use when using acronyms, is being redundant. One of the examples used in this weeks Grammar girl was “They ran a PCR reaction." This is an example of a redundant acronym, because PCR actually means polymerase chain reaction. To say they ran a PCR reaction is obviously redundant. To avoid being excessively redundant when using acronyms is easy. Make sure to understand the full meaning of the acronym before using it. Here's an example of a redundant acronym and how to fix it:
That guy has the HIV virus. HIV stands for Human immunodeficiency virus, so to say HIV virus would be incorrect. The correct way to write that sentence would be: That guy has the HIV.
Wow, i have never read a grammar girl of such length. Its nice to have a short read at midnight...Grammar Girl quickly notes the incorrect use of acronyms and how they may turn redundant. People may use an acronym and forget the words it stands for and then add one of those words to the end of the acronym. Thus making it redundant.
Ex. NRA Association National Rifle's Association
NRA already has the word Association in it. By unknowingly adding another association following NRA, the phrase then becomes redundant. You would have National Rifle's Association association
Ex. EAOP program Early Academic Outreach Program (redundancy) Early academic outreach program program
OK Fernny You are only giving acronyms without redundancy.
This week's GG discusses acronym redundancies. As the naturally lazy people we are, there are many acronyms in the world to save us some pronunciation time but we need to really pay attention to what they stand for, otherwise we could end up sounding redundant.(All the common examples are taken already. I hope this works)
Ex: My Nintendo DS screen broke
I think this is redundant because DS stands for Dual Screen. However, one could argue that you would say screen to emphasize that just the screen is broken as opposed to the entire system. However if you really wanted to sound proper I suppose to say your whole system broke you could say:
My Nintendo DS system broke
This is rather confusing to me so I'll move on. Here's another example
Ex: USB buses have changed the exchange of information greatly.
This is a lot easier to explain. USB stands for Universal Serial Bus so I just Universal Serial Bus buses.
@RawrGrr: Your examples are very poor; all you did was list acronyms, not even in a complete sentence. Next time try to put a little more thought in your examples.
Goodbye to anyone who drops Ms. Allen's class, see the rest of you next semester. My name is Deonte Lang and I approve this message.
Grammar Girl's episode 18 describes when people use acronyms to shorten phrases. She specifically describes how people still, sometimes say the word that comes last in the acronym.
For example: 1. ATM machine (Automated Teller Machine machine)
2. GOP party (Grand Old Party party)
The last letter of the acronym itself stands for the following word. Though it may be correct to say it this way, Grammar Girl tells us it's redundant, because you're technically stating the word twice.
Response to helentoloza: Grammar doesn't actually say that it is wrong to use acronyms that way, she just says it's redundant.
In this weeks grammar girl, she explains why using too much acronyms can be wrong. When an acronym is being used there are times that words are being repeated. PIN repeats the word number if being asked for it.
Examples- 1.Are you going to take the CAHSEE exam? - repeats exam. 2.LOL means laugh out loud.
Griselda you misspelled some words in your summary.
This week Grammar Girl was about Excessive Redundant Redundancies. Acronyms is way to make life simpler. Acronyms are letters put in place to stand for something.
This weeks Grammar Girl discusses redundant words that are included in an acronym. For example, the acronym PIN stands for Personal Identification Number. If one were to spell it out, it would say Personal Identification Number number, which doesn't sound right to the ear. To avoid such redundancies, an acronym is used, then added number at the end to make it work.
Redundancies in acronyms were the main topic this week. Grammar girl said that while she was writing a scientific experiment and she caught herself writing PCR reaction which actually means polymerase chain reaction reaction. Repeating herself you ask? that is actually the correct way to write acronyms.
ex 1 FDA Administration, Food and Drug administration administration
ex 2 NBA Association, national basketball association
This week Grammar Girl discusses redundant redundancies with acronyms. She shows examples of common acronym phrases that are used with redundancy. Examples, such as HIV virus, PIN number, and PRC reaction, are redundant because the acronym already contains the letter that represents the word that comes at the end of the redundant acronym phrase.
Examples: 1. AIDS syndrome --> Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome syndrome 2. LAN network --> Local Area Network network
Response to Jesse: I couldn't understand your second examples but I don't think your second example for the redundant acronym phrases will work.
This time G.G. talks about acronyms and how we use them improperly. She says that acronyms are used to make long words short. She says that she finds lots of these in her writing, so i am guessing that we should too.
Examples:
1. Killed in Action K.I.A
2. Solid State Amp SS Amp
Commen to: Cris
Your summary was good and your examples made perfect sense. It makes it more easier for me to undersatnd.
Have you ever forgotten your PIN number for the ATM machine? Or have you taken the SAT test yet? Hopefully you don't have the HIV virus :-( These three sentences are good examples of what redundant acronyms are. Another good example is
"Has a cop ever stopped you and written down your VIN number?"
There are times when we say these sentences without even noticing that we say them wrong. It's okay when you say it, but not when you write it. The whole point of acronyms is to make life easier for us when it comes to saying lots of words. It's a way to save our breath. :-)
Hope you guys understood
-Sandra Fernandez
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My response is to mikey I liked your short way of explaining things, but i think you should of used sentences to give the reader a better understanding of the use. Other than that...it was good.
In this episode, Grammar Girl talks about redundant acronyms. A redundant acronym is when you are repeating the same words. For example, Grammar Girl gives a good example, "PIN numbers." PIN stands for personal identification number. The sentence is wrong because it repeated the word "number" twice. People can easily make this mistake. The best advice I could give you is to think twice about what the letters stand for so, you don’t repeat the same words on your sentence. ----------------------------------- Examples:
1. "Please write your DOB birth on the paper."
The sentence is wrong because DOB stands for date of birth so I repeated the same word.
You could write,
"Please write your date of birth on the paper."
Or
"Please write your DOB on the paper." ----------------------------------- 2. "Alex wants to join the UFC next year."
UFC stands for Ultimate Frighter Championship. -----------------------------------
Hello danny boy, Your summary was short. You did't write a lot of information about the lesson. You didn’t explain acronym redundancies well.
Good job!!
Sandra Viramontes Period 5
Hey 5 period, We have the last spelling test tomorrow. Be ready!
In episode 18 of grammar girl she spoke about redundant acronyms. She gave examples of redundancy like: PCR, PIN, and HIV.
Some of these redundant acronyms i thought of are: ABM missile (Antiballistic Missile missile), AC current (Alternating Current current), ABS system (Antilock Braking System system), ACT test (American College Test test), ATM machine (Automated Teller Machine machine), CNN news network (Cable News Network news network), HTML language (Hypertext Markup Language language), ISBN number (International Standard Book Number number), PC Computer (Personal Computer computer), SAT test (Scholastic Assessment (or Aptitude) Test test), and VIN number (Vehicle Identification Number number). This just makes me laugh so bad. Im going to start correcting people on these. =D
Cris- your sencond example is not correct because you dont say DMV vehicle right so how is DMV department correct. I think you meant to say DMD department. but DMV department is the correct way. i hope you understood what i said. I think you should of gave more examples even though this is easy and people undersatnd it.
Acronyms are words that are shortened into one, such as PIN in this case. She explain how people use them but most of the time repeat the last word twice, if the acronym was not used. So basically they are redunduncies in literature.
Examples BRB means be right back. This does not repeat it self. Can I see your ID identification? This repeats identification since ID stands for identification.
Response- sarahalg Your examples are good, but you need more effort on your summary.
For our last Grammar Girl of the semester, GG talks about redundant acronyms that many people use. For example, she mentions that people say PIN number, which is redundant because the “N” already stands for number and there is no need to repeat it. To avoid using redundant acronyms, we should know what the acronym stands for so we don’t add that extra word.
In my writing I don’t have any abbreviations that use acronyms, but some examples would be:
The student had to give her SSN number to apply for school. OR My mother deposited her money in the ATM machine.
Both sentences have redundant words at the end of the acronym.
Response to Diego, I can see that you understand the topic, but I think that you could have explained what acronym redundancies are. Good Job though :)
Grammar Girl explained that acronyms are used to make life a little redundant. Acronyms are just a shorter and easier way of saying something that is very long. People use acronyms on a daily basis and are hard to avoid.
Ex: P.E. Physical Education
Ex: BBL Be back Later
To Everybody: Everybody seemed to understand this final Grammar Girl of the semester. Good Job.
In todays episode, the last episode of the semester!! Grammar Girl discussed Excessive Redundant Redundancies (ERR). These errors in writing and speech patterns are caused when an Acronym is followed buy a word that is in the acronym already so there is no need for the added word. Grammar Girl gives the example of "PIN number" as an (ERR) "PIN stands for "Personal Identification Number" you can easily see the Redundency in the statement "PIN Number"
Redundancies are inavoidable if you want to have better flow in your cconversations. They arent all that awful of a grammatical error. I response aside from acronyms two words can be an (ERR)
In Grammar Girl 16.18 she speak of redundants when use in acrononyms. She explains that the use of the acronyms simplfy life so adding words thats are already included in the acroynym defeats the purpose.
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To sarahalg she done a very gone job on this assignment. I understood the her post so well. Good Job!
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Acronyms are often used to make a longer name shorter and easier to say. For example instead of saying, "Please insert your personal identification number now." You would usually say, "Please insert your PIN number now." Acronyms make life easier, but they also make life a little redundant by repeating the same thing. When you say, "Please insert your PIN number," you are really saying "Please insert your Personal Identification Number number." You are being redunant by needlessly repeating number when it is already in the acronym. These are known as acronym redundancies.
Here are some examples of acronym redundancies:
1. SAT test
-- ScholasticAssessment Test test
2. RAM memory
-- Random- Access Memory memory
There is really no way of avoiding acronym redundancies because we use them all the time in our conversations. But before saying such an acronym, just think a little about what the acronym means before adding another word at the end that will make it redundant.
SARAHALG:)
Grammar Girl this week talk about redunant and how many people repeat themselve while using acronyms. Many of us make mistakes when using them. For example grammar girl gives one such as PIN. A lot of people say can i have your PIN number but they should know that PIN stand for Personal identification Number. So they are repeating themselve. The advice is that before you are going to use an acronym then you should make sure what it stands for so you wont catch yourself being redunant.
Examples:
PC Computer: Personal Computer Computer
UPC Code:
Universal Product Code Code
ACT Test: American College Test Test
Griselda Isaac
Grammar girl talks about how her work is very inspirational in her grammar girl, and she also mentions acronyms that are used improperly. She calls them redundant acronyms.These are used improperly by many people just because they sound right. the correct way to use them sounds strange so we make an improper use of grammar.
EX:RAS syndrome=redundant acronym syndrome syndrome
EX:DMV- this one is used properly, when you go to the DMV is says just DMV not DMV department.
@Griselda:
you should try incorporating correct uses for redundant acronyms instead of just bad ones.
Cris Garcia P.2
Is it really easier to just use acronyms than to say the whole name of whatever you're trying to say? Well it depends on whether you're using the acronym correctly; thats' exactly what Grammar Girls talked about this week. Sometimes there are things that have really long names, so people tend to use their acronyms, but what they don't understand is that they may be using the acronym redundantly. For example, "Thanks to the UPS service, I was able to read my book on time for English class." The UPS stands for United Parcel Service, so do you see how this is redundant? You're actually saying, "Thanks to the United Parcel Service service, I was able to read my book on time for my english class." You are repeating the word "service". These kind of situations are known as acronym redundacies.
Ex.1 An example of a redundant acronym is, "Thanks to the IRS service, David Souter was able to pay more attention to his job."
The correct form should be, "Thanks to the IRS, David Souter was able to pay more attention to his job. It can also be, "Thanks to the Internal Revenue Service, David Souter was able to pay more attention to his job."
Ex.2 Another example of a redundant acronym is, "The Supreme Court isn't a big fan of NFL league players."
The correct form should be, "The Supreme Court isn't a big fan of NFL players." It can also be, "The Supreme Court isn't a big fan of National Football League players."
Response: My response this week goes to Cris Garcia. Your summary was brief but very good because you mention the major points of this week's Grammar Girl. Your examples show that you understand the concept of redundant acronyms. Overall, it was a good job!
Fernando S. Per.2
This weeks Grammar Girl discussed redundencies when used in acronyms. She explains that the use of the acronyms simplfy life so adding words thats are already included in the acroynym defeats the purpose. For example:
*FDA administration
--Food and Drug administration administration
(adding another administration is redundant)
*WWE wrestling
--World Wrestling Entertainment Wrestling
Michelle Vasquez per:2
My comment this week is towards Grammar Girl herself. Grammar Girl says that saying PIN number is wrong but I think that including the word number is useful even though it is redundant. People could easliy mistake PIN for pin the kind you wear. So by saying." do you have your pin?" you maybe confusing someone instead of stating the redundancy!
Michelle V. per:2
In this weeks grammar girl is about using acronyms. Grammer girl says that throughout her writing she realizes that she is using some acronyms incorrectly in which she calls these redundant words. She uses an example with the words "pin number". The word PIN actually stand for Personal Identification Number, so with saying PIN number you are actually saying Personal Identification Number number. There is no need for thw word "number" to be repeated twice at the end.
Example 1: The correct way to use an acronym would be CEO because it only stands for Cheif Executive Officer, not Cheif Executive Officer officer.
Example 2: Another correct way to use an acronym would be CALL which stands for Computer Assisted Language Learning.
An acronym is a word formed from the initial letters of the word or words one is trying to shorten. However, it can become a little redundant using the acronym. These acronym redundancies are usually found in sentences like this: “After running the PCR reaction, transfer the amplicon.” PCR means polymerase chain reaction, so one would really be saying: “After running the polymerase chain reaction reaction, transfer the amplicon.” So even if it sounds weird, it's best to avoid acronym redundancies.
Ex. Your APR rate is 25%.
This is obviously an acronym redundancy.
Your APR is 25%.
Ex. It's three A. M. in the morning.
This is not an acronym redundancy since A. M. means Ante Meridiem.
-Sara per.2
Michelle V. -
You actually have a good point. Many acronyms do stand for something else like pin, ram, basic, and dc. Though it could probably be cleared up if one doesn't have a pin or a ram.
- Sara L. per.2
GG discussed redundant acronyms. Acronyms are usually used to shorten names. But sometimes they can become redundant. The examples she used were PCR reaction and PIN number.
PCR reaction = polymerase chain reaction reaction
PIN number = personal identification number number
Ex.
CAT test = California Achievement Test test
KFC chicken = Kentucky Fried Chicken chicken
CARLOS HISQUIERDO P.2
Today's topic of grammar girl is Excessive Redundant Redundancies. These are basically are abbreviations that you in in your daily sentences.
Ex. NBA = national basketball association
Ex. MLG = Major league gaming
Sarahalg, your post went into detail and hepled me understand the material much better, nice examples and nice punctuation. Thanks
Jospeh C
per 5
On this weeks grammar girl the topic was about “Excessive Redundant Redundancies”.
Grammar girl talks about phrases to make sure that we do not use the same word over and over again. Like for example the way I repeated “over and over again.” Lots of people make mistakes when using acronyms. There are lots words that have long names. That’s why people use acronyms. For example, my friend got the Nintendo DSI for his birthday. It means “Nintendo Dual Screen Improve.” These kinds of situations are acronym redundancies and sound better if you shorten them.
Ex. An incorrect use of a redundant acronym,
One of the fields that I want to study in is IDTC computers.
The correct way to write a redundant acronym is,
One of the fields that I want to study in is Integrating Database Technology Computers
Ex. Another example of a redundant acronym is,
“Some people that I know don’t even watch the NBA playoffs at all, and they call themselves basketball fans.”
The correct way to write this redundant acronym would be,
“Some people that I know don’t even watch the National Basketball Association playoffs at all, and they call themselves basketball fans.”
Alex. L
This weeks Grammar Girl was on redundant acronyms. An acronym is basically a symbol made up of letters. A redundant acronym is an acronym that has the acronym part in the beginning but then is followed by the word that the last letter in the acronym stands for.
For example:
UAV Vehicle= Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Vehicle. It's redundant because all you need is simply UAV.
Another example is an EMP Pulse.
EMP Pulse = Electro-Magnetic Pulse Pulse.
@ JosephC I like how your comment gets straight to the point of what Grammar Girl taught us. However I wish you could maybe just improvise and expand a little bit more.
Daniel Rodriguez
Period. 2
Grammar Girl this week explained how people use acronyms and often say the last word in that acronym, (redundant word), for example:
PIN number
SAT test
NBA basketball,etc.
These false used acronyms are called acronym redundancies. Acronym abundances are incorrect but commonly used.
Jiron P5
This week on Grammar Girl, is on redundant acronyms. Acronyms are used to make a name shorter than what it is, basically like using abbreviations. In other words, they make life easier than having to write the whole word. Some acronyms seem to be redundant because they seem to repeat the same thing. For instance Grammar Girl used an example of HIV virus, when the V also stands for virus. This is adding a redundant word.
Ex.
I am going to the ATM machine.
---In this example ATM machine is using a redundant word. The M stands for machine.
In other words you are saying “I am going to the Automated Teller Machine machine, which is wrong.
Ex 2.
Can you give me your ISBN number of your book?
---Once again, this acronyms is using redundant words that is unnecessary. You are saying “ Can you give me your International Standard Book Number number.
As grammar girl says it’s important to remember and say what acronym you are using before you add another redundant word at the end.
Joseph C ,
You showed u understood this concept, although I believe you should explain it in more detail. Besides this your examples were good.
I have to agree with Michelle V comment. I don't think its that big of a deal to use acronym redundancies, if you ask your friend to enter their pin number they wont have any confusion, rather if you told them enter your PIN they'll have to take a moment process what a PIN is again. Jiron E p5
This week Grammar Girl talks about acronym redundancies. Acronym redundancies are the result of not being aware
that the last letter of the acronym is the same as the word sad right after. The example Grammar Girl gave us was PIN. People usually would ask for someones PIN number. What their saying wrong is that the N at the end of the acronym stands for number.
For example:
ATM- People usually say ATM machine. What their saying wrong is that the M at the end of ATM stands for machine.
Response to cris:
I don't think Griselda has any bad examples. She actually has good examples, which are clear and understandable.
Nelly Melamed
Per. 5
This is Roberto's post not Daniel's. Roberto was having trouble with his post so he asked me to do it for him, and so I did. Here you go.
On another episode of Grammar Girl, she talks to us about the usage of acronyms. Acronyms are words put into a shorter term to understand. Like the example used if PIN. This means Personal Identification Number, so everytime you go to the mall or grocery store, once you swipe that credit card they ask you for your PIN number.Also its known as acronym redundencies when repeating the same thing over and over.
Ex.
NAACP-National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
ATM-Automated Teller Machine
Roberto Cabezas Per. 2
My comment goes to mvzblog,
Your summary was very good, especially your diction. However, as I read other peoples' summaries, I realized that they all explained what acronyms were and then defined acronym redundancies. This week's gGrammar Girl wasn't much to work with, but your writing quickly gets the point to the reader. NICE JOB!!!!!!!!!
SARAHALG:)
Redundant acronyms occur when commonly used acronym phrases include one of the words in the acronym itself, thus repeating one or more words.
Ex1. RAS Syndrome--Redundant Acronym Syndrome Syndrome.
Ex2. UPC Code--Universal Product Code code
Ex3. CNN Network--Cable News Network network
Response to FunkyFreshMeh: You only have one example, and that example has been used already. It's a good one but you might want to use something different.
Diana P2
This weeks grammar girl talks about acronym redundancies. acronym basically simplifies life so adding words that are already included in the acroynym is a waste of time. Basically there abbreviations to titles with a long name.
1.example- CAT test = California Achievement Test test
2example- DWP+ Department water and power
3. example- CHP= California Highway patrol
i like what Sarahalg said she provide good examples and is very precise.
Trevor Benjamin
Per 5
In Episode 12 Grammar Girl speaks of redundant acronyms. First off, an acronym according to Dictionary.com is "a word formed from the initial letters or groups of letters of words in a set phrase or series of words". When either saying or writing an acronym, some people may have a tendency to repeat a word that is incorporated in the acronym, making the added word redundant. It may be a habit to some people but it is one that can be easily removed and improve your writing or formal conversation.
An example of a redundant acronym would be:
My LCD Display broke!
Liquid Crystal Display Display
or
I'm going to go hit up that GOP party!
Grand Old Party party
Response to Chris:
In your second example "EX:DMV- this one is used properly, when you go to the DMV is says just DMV not DMV department." you used the word is when it should have said it. This may have been a typo and it is only a minor mistake but it could make a difference when it comes to being graded. Reread what you wrote out load; it really helps when it comes to trying to catch a mistake.
-Ricardo Fernandez
Period 2
In episode 18, Excessive Redundant Redundancies, Grammar Girl talks about what acronyms are. Acronyms are regularly used to make a long phrase shorter and simple to say. Sometimes by not thinking twice of what the actual acronym stands for it can make a redundant abbreviation. A commonly used redundant acronym is HIV virus which actually stands for Human Immunodeficiency Virus. So you won’t need to put the virus after HIV.
Ex.
Due to the bad economy, many haven’t had money to buy the TV with LCD display they wanted.
- LCD display- Liquid Crystal Display display. No need for display.
It was impossible for the students to find the LAN network at school.
- LAN network- Local Area Network network. No need for network.
Trevor B, your summary is right to the point, but you should have given an example of the acronyms being used in a sentence.
-Lucy Salguero
In today's grammar girl she talked about acronyms and how often there used incorrectly. Grammar girl mentions the example of PIN number. PIN stands for Personal Identification number. So people often say " please enter your PIN number", and there really saying "please enter your personal identification number number. Acronyms are shorter and simpler to use but often are redundant.
Examples of acronyms:
IRS Service
Internal Revenue Service service
DCSS Service
Department of Child Support Services Service
Carlos.Taquitos
Next time you should explain why grammar used the example she used, so the reader can understand better
Stephanie Calderon
per. 2
This week grammar girl talks about redundancies and how to aviod them. Rdedundancies are often used when one uses acronyms because one repeats oneself. She uses an exazmple of "PIN number" to demonstrate how redundancies are careless flaws in speech.
Example: I will be attending the University USC.
This is redundant because the word university is used twice and the first use is not necessary.
example: The ATM machine.
Stands for automatic teller machine machine and the redundancy is obvious with the use of machine twice.
Response to griselda:
Gris you gave three examples of whatredundancies are and you seen to understand thetopic. However, you should explain the examples and tell why they are redundant. If you do that, you wont forget and avoid redundancies in your speech because you tend to use them when you speak. :)
In this week's Grammar Girl, Grammar Girl points out common mistakes made using acronyms. Many people write the acronym and then add an extra word to it which are redundant because one of the letters in an acronym could actually stand for that word. It is hard to not use redundant words after acronyms because we use them quite frequently. When using an acronym, make sure to take a second and go over what they stand for before writing them and risk making a mistake.
EX.I need the ISBN number in order to find your book.
ISBN number-International Standard Book Number number
The word number is not needed at the end of this acronym because the N already stands for number.
EX.I can't use the internet until I get on a LAN network.
LAN network-Local Area Network network
The word network is unnecessary or as Grammar Girl would put it "redundant".
response to Jiron:
Your summary is short and to the point but I think you were such in a rush that you called them acronym abundances instead of redundancies.
forgot to put my name...Giovanna Murray Per 2
Acronyms are a way to say something in a shorter way. Although they make life alot easier, many people use them incorrectly. Some people amy say part of the acronym right after it which is redundent because you are just repeating what you just said, which is wrong. People don't mean to do it but its just in the back of their heads. It's just a small thing but something that we should look out for.
Ex.1
"I am ready to take my ACT test."
In this sentence i said, "I am ready to take my American College Test test". See I repeated the word "test" which is already included in the acronym.
Ex. 2
"When texting not many people use the HTML language even though its an option as a form to text."
HTML language stands for Hypertext Markup Language language. i repeated the word language.
In the end, acronym redundancies are not completely avoidable because they already exist and many people out there say this common mistake. But you can think about what you say before you say it so try to make sure you dont make this mistake.
My comment goes to the 2nd period. I like all of the summaries I read, there could be some modifications here and there but the overall work is great. Since its the last grammar girl of the semester I wanted to address my comment to everyone! Good job and keep it up!!! =)
In this weeks Grammar Girl, she talked about the redundant acronyms.She explains how when many of us use an acronym we add another word that completely defeats the purpose of the acronym. For example, many say "HIV virus". The V in HIV stands for virus so adding virus at the end is meaningless.
Examples:
- RAM memory. The M stands for memory.
- LAPD department. The D stands for department.
In both examples the extra word is redundant.
Response to Michelle V.:
Nice summary. It's to the point. As for your response to Grammar Girl, I think you have a point but you have to take into account where and what the person is doing.
-Rocio, p.2
Because of all the texting and abbreviating people do nowadays, I can understand that many people make the mistake of using redundant acronyms. But when one is trying to have a sense of professionalism, I believe it is in that person's best interest to comprehend what the acronyms in his or her writing.
1. I remember this example of redundancies because my middle school is located right next to the "La Brea" tar pits. -- the "the tar" tar pits. Very redundant and this one isn't even an acronym.
2. Here's a example where people use the acronym correctly. When you refer to the University of California in Los Angeles' campus, you say the UCLA campus. Here there aren't any redundancies so kudos to the college system for using acronyms correctly.
To Luis: I appreciate that you addressed your last comment to the entire class. In your examples, I don't think you needed to use the acronyms in sentence form (just identifying them would suffice). But you did complete the assignment and for this I applaud you.
Rama P.2
In episode 18 Grammar Girl explained the usage of redundant acronyms. Acronyms are used to make a long name shorter and easier to say. Some acronyms seem to be redundant because they seem to repeat the same thing. For example HIV virus is redundant from the repetition of the word virus. The redundant word can be easily removed to improve your writing. It' is sometimes tricky to not use the ending word.
Example:
FAFSA: Free Application for Federal Student Aid
GMC: General Motors Corporation
Response to Trevor:
You forgot to capitalize a word.
- Rosas, Roger
on this weeks Grammar girl she talks about redundant acronyms.Redundant acronyms are basically the beggining part of the acronym but then it is repeated at the end of the last acronym that it stands for.An acronym is just a few letters that mean something big but it is just simplified.Acronyms are fun to use when you need to say things in a rush or when yu dont feel like typing the whole thing
Examples
NFL
national fotball league league
MLB
Major League Baseball baseball
NBA
National Basketball Association association
Fernando Betancourt per 5
In this week's Grammar Girl she talks about redundant acronyms. It's basically about how when you abbreviate something ending a words and then using that same word right after for example PIN number, which is personal identification number number... here two "number" are being used when it is actually unnecessary. Think about what words the acronyms stand for so you don't end with the same word.
EXAMPLE #1:
"I have to take the CAHSEE Exam."
CAHSEE stands for California High School Exit Examination making it redundant when you add the exam after examination.
EXAMPLE #2:
"She wants to find the IQR range"
You are basically saying interquartile range range... redundant...
Joseph C...
your examples weren't even examples, you just wrote out what two acronyms stood for... that takes no brains and i feel like you tried to take the easy way out.
In this weeks Grammar Girl, she focuses on redundant acronyms. Acronyms are used to make a long title brief. A common mistake people use when using acronyms, is being redundant. One of the examples used in this weeks Grammar girl was “They ran a PCR reaction." This is an example of a redundant acronym, because PCR actually means polymerase chain reaction. To say they ran a PCR reaction is obviously redundant. To avoid being excessively redundant when using acronyms is easy. Make sure to understand the full meaning of the acronym before using it. Here's an example of a redundant acronym and how to fix it:
That guy has the HIV virus.
HIV stands for Human immunodeficiency virus, so to say HIV virus would be incorrect.
The correct way to write that sentence would be:
That guy has the HIV.
Wow, i have never read a grammar girl of such length. Its nice to have a short read at midnight...Grammar Girl quickly notes the incorrect use of acronyms and how they may turn redundant. People may use an acronym and forget the words it stands for and then add one of those words to the end of the acronym. Thus making it redundant.
Ex. NRA Association
National
Rifle's
Association
NRA already has the word Association in it. By unknowingly adding another association following NRA, the phrase then becomes redundant. You would have National Rifle's Association association
Ex. EAOP program
Early
Academic
Outreach
Program
(redundancy) Early academic outreach program program
OK Fernny
You are only giving acronyms without redundancy.
This week's GG discusses acronym redundancies. As the naturally lazy people we are, there are many acronyms in the world to save us some pronunciation time but we need to really pay attention to what they stand for, otherwise we could end up sounding redundant.(All the common examples are taken already. I hope this works)
Ex: My Nintendo DS screen broke
I think this is redundant because DS stands for Dual Screen. However, one could argue that you would say screen to emphasize that just the screen is broken as opposed to the entire system. However if you really wanted to sound proper I suppose to say your whole system broke you could say:
My Nintendo DS system broke
This is rather confusing to me so I'll move on. Here's another example
Ex: USB buses have changed the exchange of information greatly.
This is a lot easier to explain. USB stands for Universal Serial Bus so I just Universal Serial Bus buses.
@RawrGrr:
Your examples are very poor; all you did was list acronyms, not even in a complete sentence. Next time try to put a little more thought in your examples.
Goodbye to anyone who drops Ms. Allen's class, see the rest of you next semester. My name is Deonte Lang and I approve this message.
Grammar Girl's episode 18 describes when people use acronyms to shorten phrases. She specifically describes how people still, sometimes say the word that comes last in the acronym.
For example:
1. ATM machine (Automated Teller Machine machine)
2. GOP party (Grand Old Party party)
The last letter of the acronym itself stands for the following word. Though it may be correct to say it this way, Grammar Girl tells us it's redundant, because you're technically stating the word twice.
Response to helentoloza:
Grammar doesn't actually say that it is wrong to use acronyms that way, she just says it's redundant.
Paul Campos
In this weeks grammar girl, she explains why using too much acronyms can be wrong. When an acronym is being used there are times that words are being repeated. PIN repeats the word number if being asked for it.
Examples-
1.Are you going to take the CAHSEE exam? - repeats exam.
2.LOL means laugh out loud.
Griselda you misspelled some words in your summary.
Jesse Machorro.
In Grammar Girl today she discusses acronym redundancies. She also talked about how many people use acronyms but the repeat it without noticing.
For Example :
SAT test, you would not need the test at the end because the acronym states that it is a test.
I am taking the ACT in March.
This sentence is correct because I did not repeat myself while using the acronym.
Cris I totally understood your examples. Although I think you should of used the acronyms in a sentence for better understanding.
This week Grammar Girl was about Excessive Redundant Redundancies. Acronyms is way to make life simpler. Acronyms are letters put in place to stand for something.
Ex:DNA
Defense Nuclear Agency
EX:CAS
Control Data System
Sara
acronyms like a.m. does not mean what every one things it is.
This weeks Grammar Girl discusses redundant words that are included in an acronym. For example, the acronym PIN stands for Personal Identification Number. If one were to spell it out, it would say Personal Identification Number number, which doesn't sound right to the ear. To avoid such redundancies, an acronym is used, then added number at the end to make it work.
Example: ADD "Attention Deficit Disorder" disorder
PMS- Premenstrual Syndrome syndrome
I actually had to think about these.
-Vianney Bernabe p.2
Redundancies in acronyms were the main topic this week. Grammar girl said that while she was writing a scientific experiment and she caught herself writing PCR reaction which actually means polymerase chain reaction reaction. Repeating herself you ask? that is actually the correct way to write acronyms.
ex 1 FDA Administration, Food and Drug administration administration
ex 2 NBA Association, national basketball association
@Roger, your acronyms aren't redundant.
This week Grammar Girl discusses redundant redundancies with acronyms. She shows examples of common acronym phrases that are used with redundancy. Examples, such as HIV virus, PIN number, and PRC reaction, are redundant because the acronym already contains the letter that represents the word that comes at the end of the redundant acronym phrase.
Examples:
1. AIDS syndrome
--> Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome syndrome
2. LAN network
--> Local Area Network network
Response to Jesse:
I couldn't understand your second examples but I don't think your second example for the redundant acronym phrases will work.
This time G.G. talks about acronyms and how we use them improperly. She says that acronyms are used to make long words short. She says that she finds lots of these in her writing, so i am guessing that we should too.
Examples:
1. Killed in Action
K.I.A
2. Solid State Amp
SS Amp
Commen to: Cris
Your summary was good and your examples made perfect sense. It makes it more easier for me to undersatnd.
Have you ever forgotten your PIN number for the ATM machine? Or have you taken the SAT test yet? Hopefully you don't have the HIV virus :-(
These three sentences are good examples of what redundant acronyms are. Another good example is
"Has a cop ever stopped you and written down your VIN number?"
There are times when we say these sentences without even noticing that we say them wrong. It's okay when you say it, but not when you write it. The whole point of acronyms is to make life easier for us when it comes to saying lots of words. It's a way to save our breath. :-)
Hope you guys understood
-Sandra Fernandez
*****************
My response is to mikey
I liked your short way of explaining things, but i think you should of used sentences to give the reader a better understanding of the use. Other than that...it was good.
Peace out!
In this episode, Grammar Girl talks about redundant acronyms. A redundant acronym is when you are repeating the same words. For example, Grammar Girl gives a good example, "PIN numbers." PIN stands for personal identification number. The sentence is wrong because it repeated the word "number" twice. People can easily make this mistake. The best advice I could give you is to think twice about what the letters stand for so, you don’t repeat the same words on your sentence.
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Examples:
1. "Please write your DOB birth on the paper."
The sentence is wrong because DOB stands for date of birth so I repeated the same word.
You could write,
"Please write your date of birth on the paper."
Or
"Please write your DOB on the paper."
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2. "Alex wants to join the UFC next year."
UFC stands for Ultimate Frighter Championship.
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Hello danny boy,
Your summary was short. You did't write a lot of information about the lesson. You didn’t explain acronym redundancies well.
Good job!!
Sandra Viramontes
Period 5
Hey 5 period,
We have the last spelling test tomorrow. Be ready!
In this episode was about Acronyms.It's use for to break down a long name into a short one.Used for mainly big names just to keep the simple and easy.
Ex CPR
cardiopulminary resuscitation
Really good examples griselda.Understood the concept more :)
In episode 18 of grammar girl she spoke about redundant acronyms. She gave examples of redundancy like: PCR, PIN, and HIV.
Some of these redundant acronyms i thought of are: ABM missile (Antiballistic Missile missile), AC current (Alternating Current current), ABS system (Antilock Braking System system), ACT test (American College Test test), ATM machine (Automated Teller Machine machine), CNN news network (Cable News Network news network), HTML language (Hypertext Markup Language language), ISBN number (International Standard Book Number number), PC Computer (Personal Computer computer), SAT test (Scholastic Assessment (or Aptitude) Test test), and VIN number (Vehicle Identification Number number). This just makes me laugh so bad. Im going to start correcting people on these. =D
Cris- your sencond example is not correct because you dont say DMV vehicle right so how is DMV department correct. I think you meant to say DMD department. but DMV department is the correct way. i hope you understood what i said. I think you should of gave more examples even though this is easy and people undersatnd it.
Acronyms are words that are shortened into one, such as PIN in this case. She explain how people use them but most of the time repeat the last word twice, if the acronym was not used. So basically they are redunduncies in literature.
Examples
BRB means be right back.
This does not repeat it self.
Can I see your ID identification?
This repeats identification since ID stands for identification.
Response- sarahalg
Your examples are good, but you need more effort on your summary.
Mellisa Flores.
For our last Grammar Girl of the semester, GG talks about redundant acronyms that many people use. For example, she mentions that people say PIN number, which is redundant because the “N” already stands for number and there is no need to repeat it. To avoid using redundant acronyms, we should know what the acronym stands for so we don’t add that extra word.
In my writing I don’t have any abbreviations that use acronyms, but some examples would be:
The student had to give her SSN number to apply for school.
OR
My mother deposited her money in the ATM machine.
Both sentences have redundant words at the end of the acronym.
Response to Diego,
I can see that you understand the topic, but I think that you could have explained what acronym redundancies are. Good Job though :)
- Mary Garcia
Period 2
Sorry for the late post Ms Allen.
Grammar Girl explained that acronyms are used to make life a little redundant. Acronyms are just a shorter and easier way of saying something that is very long. People use acronyms on a daily basis and are hard to avoid.
Ex:
P.E.
Physical Education
Ex:
BBL
Be back Later
To Everybody:
Everybody seemed to understand this final Grammar Girl of the semester. Good Job.
In todays episode, the last episode of the semester!! Grammar Girl discussed Excessive Redundant Redundancies (ERR). These errors in writing and speech patterns are caused when an Acronym is followed buy a word that is in the acronym already so there is no need for the added word. Grammar Girl gives the example of "PIN number" as an (ERR) "PIN stands for "Personal Identification Number" you can easily see the Redundency in the statement "PIN Number"
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KFC Chicken- Redundant haha
Kentucky Fried Chicken Chicken
Automatic ATM- Redundant haha
Redundancies are inavoidable if you want to have better flow in your cconversations. They arent all that awful of a grammatical error. I response aside from acronyms two words can be an (ERR)
In Grammar Girl 16.18 she speak of redundants when use in acrononyms. She explains that the use of the acronyms simplfy life so adding words thats are already included in the acroynym defeats the purpose.
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To sarahalg she done a very gone job on this assignment. I understood the her post so well. Good Job!
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