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IN GRAMMER GIRL PODCAST #97 SHE TALKS ABOUT THE TOP TEN GRAMMER MYTHS THAT THERE IS.ONE MYTH IS THAT RUN ON SENTENCES ARE LONG SENTENCES WHEN THERE REALLY NOT.RUN ON SENTENCES COULD CONTAIN SIX WORDS AND STILL BE CALLED A RUN ON SENTENCE.FOR EXAMPLE "I AM HUNGRY I AM SAD".ANOTHER MYTH WOULD BE THAT PASSIVE VOICE IS ALWAYS WRONG.PASSIVE VOICE WOULD TURN OUT TO BE THE BEST CHOICE IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO DID THE ACTION THAT TOOK PLACE.FOR EXAMPLE "THE TOYS WERE GONE".
I learned that a run-on sentence isn't always long, it can actually be short. I also learned that you can use passive voice when you don't name someone for something. Something that I found interesting was that "e.g." and "i.g." both don't mean the same thing!! one means in other words(i.g.), and the other means for example(e.g.). I also learned that it is okay to split an infintive.
Examples:
Run On Sentence: I am going to play Basketball I am going to the park.
Passive Voice: The car was gone.
Split Infinitive: To easily lie.
Navpreet Singh
Period 6
In podcast #97 they talked about top ten grammar myths. The use of "a" versus "an" is one example they show. It states that "an" is used before words that have vowel sound. "A" is used before words with consonant sounds. Another thing they talk about is that it's alright to use the phrase "I'm good.", when answering the question "How are you?" They also say it's alright to split infinitives. I.g. and e.g. don't mean the same thing. E.g. means for example and i.g. means in other words.
ex. #1:
to rapidly eat.
ex. #2:
Can I have an M&M?
I want a bike.
response #1:
Nathalie Ruiz got what the podcast was saying but I don't know if she really understood because sh didn't give any extra examples other than what was already used in the podcast.
response #2:
Navpreet Singh really understood the podcast. I think it was funny how she was shocked that i.g. and e.g. don't mean the same thing because neither did I. Her examples were really good.
Sorry I forgot to say that cournewasthere is Courtne Dotson from your 3rd period class
In this podcast ther were ten language myths.
But the one that stood out to me the most was the "a run-on cannot be a long sentence". I chose this one because it was quite confusing. I know there is a such thing called a short run-on sentence. But i didnt know that it was wrong for a run-on sentence to be a long sentence. Just like long sentences you have semicolons and commas in run-on sentences too!
Responses to Other Comments:
1. Nathalie Ruiz
I would say that Nathalie Ruiz really understood the podcast, and it seems like she knows what she is talking about. I agree with her when she says, " A run on sentence could contain six words and still be called a run on sentence." I thought that was surprising.
2. Courtne Dotson
Also, i thought it was interesting to learn about the difference of when and how to use "a" and "an." I also agree with you on the fact that it's surprising to know that yopu can split infintives.
Navpreet Singh
Period 6
Grammar girl number 97 talked about myths that we here in our daily lives. Many of the myths, such as “It is incorrect to answer the question “How are you?” with “I’m good.”” we hear them in our English class. This helped me understand that many things we are told are not true. I also learned about myths I had never heard of. For example; Run on sentences can also be short.
Example #1: people love peace many hate war.
Example #2: to always want
this grammer girl talked about is "data" singular or plural? i found that it was both. for example the last apple is on the table. or if it is how many its a mass noun. uesing the word data as a mass noun much of the data is not uesed.or many of this data is not uesed. over all this grammer girl was very diffrent......
Grammar girl #97 was about the top ten grammar myths. The one that stood out the most to me was grammar myth number 2. Grammar girl talks about how it's ok to split infinitives. An infinitive is two words that make up a verb for example: to spin. A split verb is seperating the word to and the verb by putting a word in between, for example: to frantically spin.
-Jazmine Preacely
Response #1: Nathalie ruiz really understood myth numbers 10 and 6 she even gave me a clearer understanding of the run on sentences. Thanx! :D
Response #2: I think Breana understood the grammar girl but it would of been nice to see some examples of a run on sentence. You sometimes get a better understanding of something that is confusing to you if use examples of your own.
Grammergirl discusses that top ten myths that people think they shouldn't do. The one that i often get confused about is number 7. There is only one way to write the possessive form of a word that ends in s. And grammer girl put "Kansas's statute" I would usually avoid words like that, because when you say it and doesn't sound correct. It's tricky especially with the word, KANSAS'S.
ex. James's color box was destroyed by Priscilla
This was my favorite episode because it taught that grammar rules don't have to be counter-intuitive. Slang such as ain't and irregardless should not be used in formal writing. However, they are still words. Similarly, I learned that it is permissible to split infinitives when inserting an adverb for emphasis, and that it is OK to end a sentence with a preposition to avoid awkwardness. To paraphrase Winston Churchill, "That is a rule up with which I will not put!"
I thought everyone picked up on at least one aspect of the podcast, which was probably the writer's goal. However, several people transposed "i.e" as "i.g." Also, I think a better example of the passive voice would be "My dog was run over" because it omits by whom.
Jacob Artson, Period 6
Podecast #97 was about the top ten grammer myths. I learned alot about things I did and did not now. For instance I did know that slang is consisdered a language, eventhough it may not be the proper one to use. Example: "Wat up dude?" However I didn't know that it was ok to split infinitives, as long as you insert an adverb for emphasis. Example: "To slowly run."
***Juhyun Kim, period 3***
This episode was about Top 10 language myths. It was very interesting and helpful. It corrected grammatical misinformation I had. I learned that i.e. meant in other words.
I also learned that a run-on sentence could be short.
examples)
4. You use a before words that start with consonant sounds and an before words that start with vowel sounds.
- You'd write that it took an hour instead of a hour, because even though hour starts with h, which is a consonant, it start with the sound of the vowel o--hour.
7. Passive voice is when you don't name the person who's responsible for the action.
-An example would be "Cookies were stolen," because it doesn't say who stole cookies.
responses)
-I liked natalie ruiz's example of run-on sentence. "I am hungry I am sad." I sympathized with the sentence because I am hugry and I feel really sad now. Anyway, it's quite surprising that run-on sentence can only have six words.
-I could tell that courtnewasthere understood this episode very well.
Her example, which was "Can I have an M&M?", was great!
In Grammer Girl #97 i didnt learn much the only thing that i understood was the top 10 grammer myths.I understood that a run on sentence doesnt always have to be long.Rather then that i really didnt learn much.
Well I learned all run on sentences are not long as well. Umm I learned that run on sentences can contain less than 7 words. like im going to the store ill be back later. Umm i really didn't get much out of this but I did leave grammer girl a a message on her youtube account telling her how upst i was that she was the cause for my F in my forsaken english class. I'm getting pissed thinking about it so im out!
In the Grammar Girl Podcast #97 she talks about the top ten grammar myths, an interesting thing I learned is that run-on sentences aren't always long, they can be only six words,for example "I am happy I am glad" is a run-on because it doesn't have a semicolon, colon, or dash between the two independent clauses. I also learned that you could use "however" in the beginning of a sentence as long as you put a comma after it when it means "nevertheless."
-Guillermo Galindo
-Per 5
Peter Bowie.....
In grammar girl podcast #97 they talk about the top ten grammer myths that there is. Like a long sentence cannot be a run-on sentence, a short sentence can be a run-on sentence to. It really confused me at first but after I listened to it a couple times it made sense.
Response #1:
Briana had the same problem as me. By reading hers taught me nothing it just made me more confused.
Response #2:
Courtne's was cool it gave good explanations and examples. I'm glad she sits by me. LOL
Grammar girl is talking about the different languages myth. One is run on sentences and other one would be how not to start with the word however. This gramar explains alot about what to put in a sentence and what to start and not start. In the running sentence it should be at least no more that six words in a sentence because then it makes it a long sentence.
ex. #1
Passive is always wrong: Karina is loved.
In this example the sentence we don't know who is loving Karina and that Passive is always wrong.
ex. #2
How you feel?
I'm feel badly.
This example shows how the question and the answer is incorrect to use. They both don't make sense at all.
Response:
Jackie's example makes sense and it funny how the example she puts that the color box is destroyed by Priscilla...lol!
Breanna's summary about the understanding of grammar girl but I also agree with Jazmine that she would be an example of her summary.
***Period 3***
This Grammar Girl explained that there are many grammatical rules that are thought to be true but are really just myths. An example of this is a run on sentence. The myth is that a run on sentence is a long sentence. The truth is that run on sentences can be short as well. This stood out for me because I used to always write long sentences in my essays last year in the 11th grade. They used the correct punctuation, therefore they weren't run ons. An example of this would be, "I like boys I like males." That sentence lacks the correct punctuation to make it a regular sentence. The correct way to say this would be "I like boys; I like males." Another interesting point was the fact that i.e. isn't exactly the same as e.i. I.e. means in other words while e.i. means example or a list of examples.
Podcast #97 was a quick and informational episode. Grammar girl talks about the top ten myths of grammar in a very short manner. She fully covers all ten myths and provides an example for each. My two favorite myths were myths #4 and #10. Myth number ten was about run on sentences. A true run on sentence is one that has independent clauses squished together without the help of a conjunction or punctuation mark. Myth number four was about the use of a and an. You use a before words that start with consonant sounds and an before words that start with vowel sounds instead of words. I think what i liked most though was when she said wrong!
Examples:
Run-on
I am mad no I am sad.
Use of An
I will be there in an hour.
Responses:
I love Noheli's post. I completely agree with what she said. I also love the examples she used!
I also like MonsterTwat's post. I sometimes get confused with that as well.
I forgot to say I'm Jackelyn Gonzalez from your period 3 class.
Grammar girl was talking about the difference in language myth. She has alot of meaning and the ones that are the wrong ones to use in writing. It makes a little sense but it's hard to do everything that she is explaining.
Ex.
My friend Eva had a date and she was going to the movies when she found out that her date was a guy with just one eye and she ran to her house back.
(long run sentence)
Ex.
Jose is been worked.
(passive)
Response:
I think Eva makes sense and she understood the grammar girl pretty well and she gave good examples of though was best for us to undestand.
Jackie fuentes is right about using the "S" in the end of a sentence like the example she gave.
-Jose Valles...Period 3-
**loves and kisses**
In the grammar girl i learned that a run-on sentence could be short. I always thought that because of its name "run-on" the sentence would always be long. but now i see that i was wrong, a short sentence can also be a run-on sentence. Also, another thing that i really learned is that its fine to use however in the begining of the sentence, I thought it was wrong.
Christina Ruiz Period.3
Grammar girl talks about the top ten grammar myths. I thought it was very interesting and helpful.The one that cause my attention was the run on sentence. i didn't know that a run on sentence could be a short sentence. She explain that in a run-on sentence, independent clauses are squished together without the help of punctuation or a conjunction.
examples:
She gave me a withering stare I was really scared.
She never walks anywhere she is really lazy.
Responses:
1) i liked Noheli's example of a short run on sentence. She understood what makes a run on sentence.
2)Jackelyn's example were good examples. I mostly liked the example she gave about when you use "a" and when you use "an"
Ana Santiago
Period:3
Grammar Girl number 97 was about the top ten myths. Reading this episode opened my eyes to what's right and wrong about grammar.I learned numerous of things after I read this but the one myth that surprised me was how you can use "a" and "an" to a word that has a constant and vowel sound. For example, I can say I have an MD because I went to school for it.I also learned that a run-on sentence doesn't necessarily have to be long, it could be short. For example," I am surprised I am excited," that could be a run-on sentence.
Response #1
I liked how Jazmine Preacely wrote what stood out to her because it shows that she actually read the episode and I thought her examples were original.
Response #2
I also liked Courtne Dotson examples and I liked how she explained the differences between e.g and i.g.
Grammar Girl podcast #97 was about top ten grammar myths. The one that stood out to me was grammar girl's language myth number 5. I chose this one becuase I never really knew what e.g. and i.e. stood for. E.g. means "for example" and i.e. means "in other words." You use e.g. to provide a list of incomplete examples, and you use i.e. to provide a complete clarifying list or statement.
Response #1: I think that Courtne's explanation of "a" versus "an" was really good. It actually helped me out alot. Thanx Courtne..=)
Response #2: I think that Nathalie's explanation of run-on sentences was good but she could of done a better job. It still helped me out. Thanx Nathalie!!
In Grammar girls top ten myths I learned many things and helped me out on my worries about grammar.I learned that run-on sentences arent really very long sentence with many words that it can even be a sentence that contains six words but that are not seperated by a semicolon,dash or colon that dont seperate twon different independent clauses.I also learned that it is ok to start a paragraph or a sentence with "However" and that irregardless is a word.
Example #1
-I like ice-cream I like cookies
(six words run-on because theres nothing that seperated the two clauses)
-I loved to write;I loved to read.
Example #2
However, many scientist agree upon its theory of evolution
(however can be used if theres a comma after it)
Response #1
In my opinion nathalie ruiz did understand it but could of done better explaining what was that she learned.
Response #2
I think courtne really understood the podcast very well and gave some good examples.
-Zenaida Carrillo Per.3
Podcast#97 talks about the top 10 grammar myths. I learned that not all run on sentences are actually long. Ex.I am happy I am hyper. I Aalso learned that you can end a sentence in a perpositional phrase as long as the sentence doesnt mean the same with out the phrase on the end. lastly, I learned you can split infinitives. For Example:
to easily cry.
Respose:courtne seemed like she understood the podcast. and for her ex. i eat rapidly also. lol
Respose: Peter im not sure if you understood. You should try listen'n a couple more times. lol jk
This weeks Grammer girl was about the top ten grammer myths. These include things like run on sentences and the fact is they really dont have to run on, they are just two sentences smashed together e.g I am hungry I am bored, both alone are sentences and make sense but since there is no common or any sort of that stuff then its wrong because they are seperate ideas just smashed together. Oh yea that whole eg and ie thing is something else i learned. And i guess that counts as an example as well haha, but yea... ima forget by the time you read this because i feel its a bit to technical for me and ive always had the habit to use ie. Ok now time for the responses, first off Iak or Lak read the wrong one, so yea... i think Data is also both singular and pural lol. Also i think Jackie's whole problem with words like kansas's is very interesting because she says that she stays away from words like that, i do the same thing but with big words in my essays. Or something that i cant spell, i just think its interesting that students will stay away from things for the sake of perfection.
-Michael R. per.3
Grammar Girl was talking about the differences in myth. The languages there is and the ones that are wrong to put when writing. One that I like the most was where it said not to use the word "however" at the beginning of sentence.
Examples
#1- "However I felt like throwing up when I saw a cat die."
#2- "However my mom said no for me to go out with my boyfriend."
Response:
#1- I think Jose was reading pretty good the episode and put good examples in what he was understanding.
#2- Eva put good examples and it seems that she was really paying attention to the grammar girl and what her topic was about.
In grammar girl #97 she talks about grammar myths such as run on sentences, how they are long when there not, also how they can only have a couple of words and still be a run on sentence. Also how you shouldn't end the sentence with a preposition when you shouldn't only do that when you begin the sentence with a preposition.
An example is i went to the store to get chips a drink a cookie.
Another example is the ball is gone.
Nathalie used great example with a toy.
Peter doesn't know anything i think he copied from other lol jp jp.
in this gramar girl, she duscussed the different myths in our popular language. The main myth that stood out to me was the one dicussing iragardless. They both are informal and nonstandard. The other ones that stood out were the run-on sentences are long over flowing words that keep going. " the biy went home and after he went home he took the trash
"
Response: i think noheli did very good in commenting her pod cast because she explained everything right. great job!
response 2:
nathalie ruiz explain all of her comments very well. she gave vivd examples of all of the myths.
Courtnei johnson
I didn't know that "Irregardless" was a word in the English dictionary at all. Araceli Gutierrez period 6
Araceli Gutierrez period 6
Navpreet singh-I also learned that you can use passive voice when you don't name someone for something.
Evita 34 -Those are good examples.
In the Grammer Girl, I really understood everything that she said. I believe all the examples that she gave were very clear and I understood alot more then what I did before. The one that really stood out to me is the one about split infinitives. That one really clicked in my head.
PERIOD 5
GRAMMAR GIRL #97 IS ABOUT THE TOP TEN GRAMMAR MYTHS IN ENGLISH.
1) IS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT END A SENTENCE IN A PREPOSITION, BUT IT IS ONLY TRUE IF THE SENTENCE MEANS THE SAME THING WITHOUT THAT PREPOSITION
2) INFINITIVES SHOULD NOT BE SPLIT, AN INFINITIVE SPLIT IS WHEN A TWO PART VERB IS SEPERATED BY ANOTHER WORD.
3)THE 'A' IS USED WHEN A WORD BEGINS WITH A CONSONANT AND THE WORD 'AN' IS USED WHEN THE WORD BEGINS WITH A VOWEL. ACTUALLY 'AN' IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED WHEN THE WORD BEGINS WITH A VOWEL SOUND.
EXAMPLE #1:
WRONG - I WANT A M&M BAG FROM THE STORE.
RIGHT - I WANT AN M&M BAG FROM THE STORE.
EXAMPLE #2:
WRONG - WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO BE AT?
RIGHT - WHAT ARE YO LOOKING AT?
RESPONSE #1:
I LIKED THE EXAMPLES THAT ZENAIDA GAVE THEY WERE SHORT AND ACCURATE.
RESPONSE #2:
I LIKED JADE ASHLEY'S EXAMPLE FOR RUN-ON SENTENCE, IT WAS SUPER SHORT THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU THINK IT WOULD BE.
in Grammar girl 97 she talks about the top ten myths for example in myth number 7 i learned that possessive words that end in a s are correct and that u don't have to put a comma before the s ends. it is just a style issue.
for example "comments" is spelled correctly and i can also style it up put a comma before the s for example "comment's"
Cristian Morales p5
IN GRAMMER GIRL PODCAST #97 SHE TALKS ABOUT THE TOP TEN GRAMMER MYTHS THAT THERE IS.ONE MYTH IS THAT RUN ON SENTENCES ARE LONG SENTENCES WHEN THERE REALLY NOT.RUN ON SENTENCES COULD CONTAIN SIX WORDS AND STILL BE CALLED A RUN ON SENTENCE.FOR EXAMPLE "I AM HUNGRY I AM SAD".ANOTHER MYTH WOULD BE THAT PASSIVE VOICE IS ALWAYS WRONG.
PASSIVE VOICE WOULD TURN OUT TO BE THE BEST CHOICE IF YOUI didn't know that "Irregardless" was a word in the English dictionary at all. elizabeth deluis period 6 DONT KNOW WHO DID THE ACTION THAT TOOK PLACE.FOR
EXAMPLE "THE TOYS WERE GONE".
Grammar girl number 97 talked about myths.In grammar girl terms everything in the world of the black book of grammar! She proven a numbers of what you think would sound wrong like "run on sentence dosen't have to be one long sentence, were it can just be a small for ex: The white dog black cat. Something I found in ways to some help to me later on, with my grammar issuses !
Dijon.P
Per.5
grammar girl #97 "THE TOP TEN GRAMMAR MYTHS" pretty much contradicted the majority of the things and rules i've been taught by my english teachers up until now. She thoroughly explained that a run on sentence isnt necessarily long, it has no specific length, it can be any two sentences that arent seperated by a comma,colon,semi-colon etc.
ex of a short run on sentence;
i hate school i love sports.
Another myth that she clearly proved to be wrong was the one that consisted of not being able to start a sentence with the word "however" . that is definetly one of the top ten grammar myths because i've lost so many points on assignments for starting sentences with "however".
ex: Jane wasnt the smartest person in her class.However, she managed to pass with an "A".
-Jamanique Zachery
period 6
in the grammar girl i learned that all run on sentances dont have to be long sentences. they talked about the top 10 grammar myths, and i wonder why my past english teachers tought me differently. infitives are ok to be split as long as their is an adverb between them.Another thing i learned was slang is still a language.
This grammar girl podcast, discussed the top 10 myths. The one I would talk about is the run-on sentence. She also talked about the passive voice.
Examples:
1. I was sad I am happy now.
2. I am going to the movies It is too expensive.
Responses:
* I think Reyna explained the podcast particularly well. She also had some great examples and included 3 of the myths that the grammar girl mentioned in the podcast.
* I think that Juyun Kim also used explained this podcast with details. She talked more about passive voice which not alot of people talked about.
This grammar girl podcast, discussed the top 10 myths. The one I would talk about is the run-on sentence and an run on sentence is not that bad you can make it short. And i also learned that you can use passive voice without naming someone and something.
example 1:
I am going to the movies then i will go the park.
example 2:
The bus was gone.
response:
I didn't get Ali podcast because he didn't give a brief explanation.
and navpreet always gets the podcast and has good examples always.
Many of the myths, such as “It is incorrect to answer the question “How are you?” with “I’m good.”” we hear them in our English class. I also learned that run sentences dont always have to be long, they could in fact be short as well. I.G and E.G to me meant the same thing but they are not.
ex
1.)I am going to play soccer I am going to the park. Long Run On
2.)I am happy no I am sad.
Grammar Girl # 4 talked about top ten grammar myths. It showed an example of the use of "a" vs "an". Grammar Girl # 4 also explains that "an" is most commonly used before words that have vowel sound. "A" is used before words with consonant sounds. It also explains how its it's alright to split infinitives. Long sentence cannot be a run-on sentence, but also a short sentence can be a run-on sentence.
Example
1. To quickly rush.
2. Can I have a lunch?
I want a sandwich.
Comments
1. Commenting on Nathalie Ruiz's post, she said "I AM HUNGRY I AM SAD".ANOTHER MYTH WOULD BE THAT PASSIVE VOICE IS ALWAYS WRONG. I like how she recognized that passive voice is alwas wrong and included that in her post.
2.Juhyun Kim showed a high level of understanging of this podcast. "You use a before words that start with consonant sounds and an before words that start with vowel sounds."
This Gramma Girl talks about the top ten myths.One the myths talks about how run on sentences are long sentences. A run on sentence can be a long sentence but they are not long sentences.
Ex. I like to eat a lot pizza I also like to drink a lot of water as well.
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