Thursday, September 11, 2008

Grammar Girl Pd 3

Period 3 - You need to listen to the grammar girl podcast #46, then post your response as a comment to this blog.

Don't forget to comment on two of your classmates' posts too!

57 comments:

Anonymous said...

The podcast was about what is the difference between passive voice and active voice. She gave a lot of examples that made sense, maybe some that I didn't know. I learn how to use it and which is which. Hearing that made me realize the difference and which is the subject in the active voice. An example of the active voice would be: "Ernie plays ball". The subject is Ernie and the action is that he plays ball which is the object. Another example of passive voice would be: "Liz is hated". The only thing missing is that no one knows who hates Liz.

Fuentes said...

So active is where the subject is doing the action. While passive voice is where the actio is more the subject? right?
"Beatriz loves to play" is active, while "Beatriz got played!" is passive. Grammer Girl is right writing in active voice is more simple!

Andy9 said...
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Ashika Ranasinghe said...

The podcast was about passive versus active voice. It explained the differences between passive and active voice by using lots of examples that i could connect to. Passive voice is when the action gets down graded to the subject position. An example of passive voice is, " The car is being driven by me." Active voice is when the subject is doing the action.An example of active voice is, " I am driving the car." I also learned that it's better to use the active voice because passive voice could lead to weird looking sentences and it could make your sentence meaningless.

mizzbr3zzy said...

The podcast between passive and active voice are more similar than different. More people use the active voice than the passive voice. It looks to me like the passive voice just used the same words from the same active voice sentence and switched them around. The example they used by sayind in active voice "I am holding a pen." As otherwise in the passive voice "The pen is being held by me." They are both different but more similar.

The passive voice and active voice are very easy to understand. The active voice being the "subject is doing the action." And the passive voice being "the action gets promoted to the subject."

Anonymous said...

in an active voice the subject is doing the action and in a passive voice the target of the action gets promoted to the subject i learned that passive voice can lead to awkward sentences and obscured meanings . so it is bteer to use active voice. my example for active voice is john ate chocolate cke. my example for passive voice is i ate chocolate cake

kjh1877 said...

The episode 46 was about active voice and passive voice.
An example of the active voice would be : "Amy smacked her brother." Amy is the subject, and she is doing the action: she smacked her brother, the object.
An example of the passive voice would be "Her nails are bitten." To highlight the nails, I used passive voice.

I think enndy didn't get the idea of passive voice. (No offense!) The two examples he showed are both active vocie. Past tense and passive voice are different. "Amy is chased by Steve." The tense of this sentence is present, but it's an example of passive voice.

I think keisheloveeyes also has same problem. (No offense!) "I ate chocolate cake." is an example of active vocie. The passive voice would be "Chocolate cake was eaten by me."
Again, past tense and passive voice are different.

(Juhyun Kim, per3)

JackelynG said...
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JackelynG said...

Podcast #46 was about the difference between active voice and passive voice. In the active voice the subject is doing the action, while in the passive voice the subject of the sentence recieves the action. I thought this podcast was a good one, especially because the election is coming up. I've also noticed that politicians hardly ever use the active voice. I believe it's because they don't want to blame anyone/take the responsibility for an action, and they just don't want to release any information.

Examples:
Active- Josh enjoys playing soccer.
Passive- The dishes were washed.

Evita I liked the two examples you used because they were nice and simple.

Juhyun Kim I like the way you organized your thoughts, very well written. It really seems as if you fully understood everything grammar girl was saying.

Jackelyn Gonzalez (Period 3)

Anonymous said...

This percise podcast was about the difference between active and passive voice. Active voice is when the subject is doing the action. Example: "I am doing my homework." However, Passive voice is when the action gets downgraded to the subject position. Example: "The homework is being done by me." I honestly think writing in active voice is far more easier than writing in passive. Passive is too confusing!!!!!

Dawn said...

The podcast explained the differences between passive and active voice. Using an active voice is easier to understand than of a passive one. I also hold true what Grammar Girl said about using the passive voice."...the form can lead to awkward sentences and obscured meaning" I myself would prefer using active voice because passive is too wordy.
My example of
Active voice:
"I broke the window."
Passive voice:
"The window was broken."
Using an active voice is the safer way.

-Alyssa Pablo Per. 3

jazzypt said...
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Dawn said...

...continuation

Response
1.I really liked Evas example of passive voice."Liz is hated".
She is right when she says the only thing missing is that no one knows who hates Liz. Good point!:)

2. Mizzbr3zzy described how the active voice being the "subject is doing the action." And the passive voice being "the action gets promoted to the subject." With her comment she made it more understabdable to me how passive voice is used.

Alyssa Pablo Period 3

jazzypt said...

In episode #46 the podcast was about Active voice verses passive voice. Active voice would be more specific and direct as to what the person is talking about because it identifies the subject. For example if I say, "Jack stole my bike" you know exactly who stole my bike and what was stolen. If I were to speak in Passive voice I would say, "My bike was stolen by Jack" everything is flipped around and indirect. I had to listen to the explaination of the diference between the both a couple of times because its sort of confusing. I really dont understand why they say pasive voice isn't incorrect but then again it's not the best way to phrase your thoughts, it doesn't make sense. Another example of passive voice would be, "Mistakes were made" but we dont know who made the mistakes so Active voice would be "We made mistakes".

-Jazmine Preacely

jazzypt said...

Response:

1. I don't think enndy really understood what the podcast was about, active voice is more direct and passive is indirect rather than a present tense and past tense kind of thing. Did u really listen to it?

2. I think Ashika really hit it on the nail, her examples really matched up with her definitions of active and passive voice.

-Jazmine Preacely

Ashika Ranasinghe said...

Response #1
I really liked how Dawn explained the differences between active and passive voice. She used examples that i could understand, they were simple and not to wordy. Her active voice example was,"I broke the window," and her passive voice was,"The window was broken." I could see the differences between the two and i really liked that.

Response #2
I liked how Jazzypt described her confusion with the Grammar girl episode because I had the same problem. She made it clear to me when she said that passive voice is not the best way to phrase your thoughts. I also like how she didn't just use two examples to show that she understood what passive and active voice, she used three!

Ms. Allen said...

I love all the posts. Make sure you come back to re-read them after you post; someone may respond to you!

erik09 said...

The podcast was about the different between passive and active voice. Active voice is more for when the subject is identified and passive is for when there is no subject. Active voice is more common and passive doesn't always sound proper. For example you would say "I threw the ball" as opposed to "The ball was thrown by me"

erik09 said...

Response #1: I think jazmine really got the point of the podcast because she really explains how active and passive are different. The examples she gives make sense and she does a good job of explaining them.

Response #2: I think enndy didn't really understand what the podcast was about because it really has nothing to do with past or present tense and both examples were active.

Anonymous said...

***I agree with Jackie Fuentes that Grammaer Girl is right about writing in Passive. Writing in Passive is easier.

***Alyssa used some good examples about the window been broken. She put that she broked it and then she put that the window was broken, but don't who broked it.

Rorschach said...

The podcast was centered Active speakers take a declarative and direct approach when talking specifically about a topic for example:

"I take pride in my ability to write."

Where as a Submissive voice would say
"Pride is what I take in my writing."
This leaves out synergy that writing needs to flow and becomes too wordy. Grammar girl gave professional examples such as address by Ronald Reagan in the Iran : "Mistakes were made."

While it's declarative the sentence is vague and does not help the reader understand what the speaker is addressing. (What mistakes? Who made them?)

And concluding the intro to two Grammar girl podcast left me a little dazed until she started her example, and it's my only complaint about the podcast.

Rorschach said...

Correction from my last post Submissive is meant to be Passive.

Response #1: Evita34 gave a basic example of Active speaking in context and probably the easiest for one person to remember. Simply put I enjoy simple rules/examples. The Passive example was spot on with minimal storage so everyone should be able to understand. Kudos.



Response #2: jackelyng proposed something that hasn't been talked about enough amongst the teen populace: fact, politician love to avoid the messy details of any poor choice made by our system the government. Back on topic the Passive speaker has been in office for many terms. Again we can reference Reagan's famous quote on Iran. A perfect example of a Passive speaker; "Mistakes were made."

sakina said...

the podcast is about active and passive voice. it teaches how the active voice is used like the active sentence is doing the action and the passive voice is target of the action gets promoted to the subject position. and lot of people use the active voice the most then the passive voice and the passive voice can sometime make your sentence weird. an example for active voice is the waiter dropped the tray of food. and an example for passive voice is the tray of food was dropped by the waiter.

response:

i think enndy really didnt get it and his examples where both in active.

juhyun kim got the idea and she was really in to it she gave good examples and i think she got the concept what was active and passive voice.

(sakina madha pr3)

Anonymous said...

The podcst is about the diference between passive voice n active voice. She the podcast gave us alot of examples that made perfect sense to me, because in active voice the subject is doing the action and in passive voice the target of the action get promoted to the subject position. Some examples of the switch would be that MARIO LOVES ARMANDA ... I would say that Armanda is n Love by Mario .... another another example would be that The window was broken ... The window was broken by me

Anonymous said...

Response1-I think ashika understood the podcast perfect ilike her examples and she explaind it very well simple and easy 2 undertand.

Response2-I think jazmine understood the podcast very well she used perfect examples and her explanation fit the podcast very well...

Good job gurls !!!!

Andy9 said...

kjh1877, thanks for clearing that up! No offense taken too. :P

For the most part, I think we get the concept.

Andy9 said...

I see the difference now. I just misinterpreted it - note how I said "tense" and not "voice"; That says alot.

Easily said, the subject is controlling the sentence.

Active Voice:
Ruby is kicking the ball.
↑............↑.........↑
Subject Action Object

The arrows are pointing at the structures and functions that compose the sentence.

Passive Voice:
Fred got dunked on by Josh.
↑............↑.............↑
Object -Action ---Subject

Active Form:
"Josh dunks on Fred too much."
Basically, the subject should always be the focus/emphasized.

~ Thanks for the response though.

duckie said...
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duckie said...

The podcast was about the difference between passive and active voice. I liked the podcast because grammar girl used many examples to help you understand the difference between passive and active voice. In active voice the subject is doing the action and in passive voice the subject is receiving the action.

For example:

Active: “I listen to music.”

Passive: “ The music is being listened to by me.”


Responses:

1. I agree with dawn, passive can get wordy. I also liked her examples.

“I broke the window.” the subject is the window and the action is that she broke it.

2. I liked Juhyun Kim examples as well. It seems like she really understood the podcast.


(Ana Santiago, Per3)

Anonymous said...

THE PODCAST WAS ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PASSIVE VOICE AND ACTIVE VOICE. THE SPEAKER GAVE MANY EXCELLENT EXAMPLES THAT REALLY HELPED FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENCE. AN EXAMPLE OF ACTIVE VOICE WOULD BE:"PETER PLAYS FOOTBALL". THE SUBJECT IS PETER AND THE ACTION IS PLAYING FOOTBALL. AN EXAMPLE OF PASSIVE VOICE WOULD BE:"PETER IS FRESH". YA DIGG.......

Anonymous said...

this is PETER....PHRESH KID #8


RESPONSE 1-I THINK KASHONDRA'S WAS HARD TO UNDERSTAND SHE DIDN'T GIVE ME THE FEELING THAT SHE HAD A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF PASSIVE AND ACTIVE VOICE.

RESPONSE 2-I THINK THAT GOOFY'S WAS OK IT LOOKED LIKE HE UNDERSTOOD IT VERY WELL....THE LOVE ARMANDA THING....I DIDN'T NEED TO KNOW THAT.

noheli said...

The podcast showed us when we are using passive or active voice in a sentence. Using passive voice is very common, but it is not the most appealing way to do it. In an active sentence the subject is doing the action and the object is receiving the action. In a passive sentence the object takes the place of the subject. Example:
Kelsey will present her research at the conference. (Active)
Research will be presented by Kelsey at the conference. (Passive)

Responses:
#1 I agree with dawn that passive voice is to wordy and much more confusing to get the point.

#2 Like evita34 said in her example "Liz is hated" less information is given,therefore we don’t know who hates Liz. Passive voice gives us less information.

monstertwat said...

response: Marion wouldnt it be "Armanda is loved by Mario" because the action is being done to her and you put "Armanda is in love with Mario" she is doing the action in that sentence..

response:Eva's responses are easy to understand, their simplistic! And make sense

Daniel said...

The podcast was basically dealing with the comparison between active voice and passive voice. Active voice is the one to get used to and accommodate to ones mind. Active voice the subject is doing the action. In a passive voice the subject in unknown according to what the action is.

Daniel is holding his pain is an example of active voice. Daniel is the subject and pain is the action.

The pen is being hold. That could be an example of passive voice i guess lol

GorgeousME said...

The podcast about active and passive voice was very informational. Now, I will be more careful when writing my essays. She described how active voice is alittle bit more sfaer then passive voice is. Active voice brings in the subject at the beginig while passivevoice brings in the subject at the end. one example of active voice is " She was playing basketball " the subject is she and the verb is playing. While during a passive voice sentence " basketball is what she played " the subject is twords the ending.

GorgeousME said...

response 1- i think peter got the message out well. He gave too vivid examples of active voice and passive voice. Even though hes not fresh nor a decent football player he still managed to use that massive head to explain passive and active voice. Good job petty!

response 2- i think MARIOS WAS VERY NIE. HIS DESCRIPTIONS OF ACTIVE AND PASSIVE VOICE WERE VERY CLEAR AND EVEIDENT THAT HE PAID MUCH ATTENTION DURING THE RECORDING.

Andy9 said...

• Reply 2 -- Not bad, sounds like you understand it. Favorite example had to be the first one by Eva. Straight to the point.

Se3sH said...

The podcast was differentiating between passive voice and active voice. Unlike Microsoft Word,(with its underlined green grammar corrections) it's not necessarily saying that passive voice is incorrect, but that it's simply not the best way to phrase your sentence. When using passive voice it is often vague and awkward, the object would become the subject in the sentence. Still not performing an action but just becoming the main focus and receiving the action. When using active voice the sentence is precise and direct. The object receiving the action is displayed as the subject and most likely the person/object performing the action is left out. Therefore, passive voice leaves the reader unsure or the sentence is often unclear. However, passive voice might be helpful when writing a suspense or mystery.

Anonymous said...

Comment 1
i think perter got the idea of the podcast. He was not truthful in the examples but they did make sense. I dont know if his passive voice is correct.?

Comment 2
gorgeous got the idea of the podcast really well. Her examples show that she paid attention. She needs to let basketball go and move to football.

Se3sH said...

I liked how kjh1877 and JackelynG explained their understanding of the podcast. They gave good examples and showed that they really understood the concept.kjh1877's examples cut straight to the point and were short and simple.She used very few words yet she still managed to explain her understanding of the concept.I agree with JackelynG when she mentioned the elections and Grammar Girl really made me acknowledge the fact that politicians do in fact use passive voice and most of the time they don't give enough information.

zeny7391 said...

The podcast basically explained the difference between passive voice and active voice. For example, in a passive-voice sentence the subject of the sentence is the receiver of the action like "She will be loved" this sentence does not tell you by who she'll be loved. In an active voice sentence, the subject is doing the action.For Example "I made chocolate cake today." The subject is "I" and the action is "made cholate cake". Passive and active voice are many times used incorrectly but by hearing this podcast I learn the difference between them and what and how to use active and passive voice correctly next time.
-Zenaida

zeny7391 said...

Response #1
In my opinion I liked eva's(evita34)response but i think she could of explain it a little better than what she did other than that i really liked her examples fpr active and passive sentences.

Response #2
In my opinion i think JackelynG explained what passive and active voice was pretty well i like her examples and i feel i have a better understanding of what passive and active sentences are now.

-Zenaida Carrillo

Anonymous said...

Podcast #46 talks about the differences between active and passive voice. In the active voice the subject is doing the action. Whereas, in the passive voice the subject is not always there. In the podcast they related the examples to things in our lives like politics and songs. I learned that the passive voice is annoying but it also gives a little mystery to whom the subject is. An exampl eof the passive voice: The phone was robbed. An exapmle of an active voice: The thug with the apple stole the phone.

luvinMYbaby... said...

this blog was very helpful and made it clear on how to use passive voice and active voice. It made it clear the active voice was best to use. i learned you can u passive voice to state things about the unknown. and to make you sentence sound mysterious.
ex.
passive voice
people were hurt during the acident...
it tells us what happened but not who did it.
ex.
active voice
The suspect hurt people in the acident...
it tells us what happened and who did it.

luvinMYbaby... said...

erick09
seems to have a clear understanding of the blog, and kept it short.

Alexxxkiid said...

The podcast was about the difference between active and passive voice. It used many examples to explain the differnce between active and passive voice. Active voice is when the subject is doing the action and passive voice is where the action is more of the subject. In my opinion, I believe that active voice is more common and passive doesn't always sound proper and is rarely used.

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Alexxxkiid said...

I agree with evita34 that using the passive voice is way much easier to understand.

I agree with zeny7391 that Eva should've explained the podcast more instead of just saying that it gave good examples of both.

Priscilla Pineda (Per.3) said...

The Grammar Girl podcast #46, was about the difference between a passive voice and active voice, I was able to understand the difference by the examples used in the podcast. In a active sentence the subject is doing the action, an example is "Priscilla loves Eva Cruz". In a passive sentence "Eva is being loved” the action gets promoted to the subject position.

Response

1. Eva had a great example of a passive sentence "Liz is hated" , the action was promoted to the subject position.

2. Ashika had also a great example of an active sentence "I am driving the car", because the subject directed the action.

Paulypimp245 said...

the podcast was about the difference between pasive and active voice. the odcast gave alot of examples that differenciatedthe two. an example of an active voice is "paul plays football". it is acvticebecause the subject is me and the action is me playing football. and example of passive is "courteni is loved"

Paulypimp245 said...

i think ashika Got the message that the podcast was sending. she did very well in explainming to us the difference between the actrive and passive voices. good JOB!!!

Paulypimp245 said...

peter did a good jkob explaining the diiference between passive and active voices but he does get a little bit ot ahead of himself.. but other than that Good job peter

Daniel said...

I agree with Eva's conclusion to the podcast. Her example is are extraordinary and precise to what the podcast was about.


Duckies explanation made sense and allowed, I guess everyone to understand it in a more precise way.

Daniel Rodarte per 3

damon m said...

the podcast was about finding the difference between passive voice and active voice.

Anonymous said...

The podcast explained the differences and usages of the passive and active voice. An example of the active voice is, "I slapped the man." That same example can be turned into the passive by saying, "The man was slapped by me."

mZ.@ll3ns b0y t0y!!!! said...

i think your all right!
the end!

Anonymous said...

I think that grammar girl is totally right about passive and active voice. I also agree that passive voice is totally easy use.
Grammar girl gave a total good example for each.I totally now understand the difference.

Examples:
"Jose Loves Martha"The subject is Jose and the action is that Martha is being loved.

"Priscilla is generous"
The subject is Priscilla and we don't know who is she been generous there.

This was a totally good grammar.!!!

***loves and kisses***